[CBW_Exec] CBW 2011 Planning
kbaca@nmsu.edu
kbaca at nmsu.edu
Fri Apr 16 19:19:11 CDT 2010
I've been reading the conversation(s) and am reminded again of my loss in not
attending C's this year. This panel sounds fantastic and would be well attended,
I believe. kb
----- Original Message -----
From: sgoen at sfsu.edu
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:36 pm
Subject: Re: [CBW_Exec] CBW 2011 Planning
To: Conference of Basic Writing Executive Board <cbw_exec at tamu-commerce.edu>
> Deborah Mutnick might be interested. Shall we ask her?
>
> >Sugie,
> >
> >Thanks so much for such a reasonable compromise.
> >I would be happy to be part of such a panel.
> >Any other takers?
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: cbw_exec-bounces at tamu-commerce.edu
> >[mailto:cbw_exec-bounces at tamu-commerce.edu] On
> >Behalf Of Sugie Goen-Salter
> >Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 2:46 PM
> >To: Conference of Basic Writing Executive Board
> >Subject: Re: [CBW_Exec] CBW 2011 Planning
> >
> >Hello everybody,
> >Thanks Shannon for getting the CFP out to all of us for review.
> And
> >thanks to Peter and Susan for voicing these really important
> concerns.
> >I wonder if we can't "have it both ways" as it were for the 2011
> >conference. We can keep the plans for the CBW meeting as we
> decided
> >them in Louisville and as Shannon clearly articulates them in her
> >email. But perhaps we could also bring some of the issues that
> Peter
> >and Susan bring up to CCCCs as a whole by submitting a panel
> proposal
> >to the main conference organized as Peter suggests around the last
> >chapter in Rebecca's book. Issues this panel might address could
> >include: the Past and Future of BW at CCCC's (how has BW's
> presence at
> >C's changed over time: what is the current relationship of BW to
> >C's); the Future of BW scholarship (who's doing it now where is
> it
> >being done, how is it being supported, what are its central
> concerns);
> >The Future of BW programs: what are the costs and benefits of
> >supporting BW on 2 and 4 year college campuses? Where are BW
> programs
> >(we assume they've largely disappeared from 4 year campuses and
> are
> >now mostly on 2 yr, but as Susan points out, they aren't safe at 2
> yr
> >campuses either. And some elite universities still have BW
> programs
> >e.g. Michigan,); The Future of BW students (who are BW students
> today?
> >How are they served by BW programs?)
> >
> >These are just some ideas. My point is mainly that I think it's
> >possible for us to have these important conversations both at the
> CBW
> >workshop, but also in the main body of Cs. And, we can follow up,
> as
> >appropriate in 2012.
> >Any thoughts?
> >Sugie
> >
> >
> >On Apr 9, 2010, at 4:34 AM, J. Elizabeth Clark wrote:
> >
> >> Good morning colleagues!
> >>
> >> I share Susan & Peter's concerns, almost to the letter. I
> would like
> >> to see us do a variety of things in response to this:
> >>
> >> 1. Move ahead with resolution (s) to CCCC
> >> 2. Plan, perhaps, a stand alone CBW conference for 2012 or
> 2013 and
> >> find a way to make it geographically interesting (Like, what if
> we
> >> had 5
> >> or 6 regional conferences but were able to teleconference
> during the
> >> day?)
> >>
> >> But, I agree that we should move ahead with calls for panels &
> >> presentations at our CBW meeting in 2011. I think there's real
> >> interest
> >> & it might get more folks interested in coming, connecting, etc.
> >>
> >> Liz
> >>
> >>
> >> J. Elizabeth Clark, Ph.D.
> >> Professor of English
> >> LaGuardia Community College--CUNY
> >> e-mail: lclark at lagcc.cuny.edu
> >> Phone: 718.482.5665 http://faculty.lagcc.cuny.edu/eclark
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> "Shannon Carter" <Shannon_Carter at tamu-commerce.edu> 4/8/2010
> 10:03>> PM >>>
> >> Great ideas, Susan and Peter.
> >>
> >> Just to clarify where we are with current proposal:
> >>
> >> 1. The materials we created and are asking for feedback on
> >> (representing many, many hours of work, of course) are in
> response to
> >>
> >> the conference theme the EB discussed and approved during EB
> meeting>> at CCCC last month and then announced at CBW SIG.
> >>
> >> 2. At that time, EB also discussed and approved plans to open
> up CBW
> >> to proposals.
> >>
> >> To my mind, the wonderful points Peter raises and Susan extends
> are>> *exactly* what we were responding to when we created the CFP
> for CBW
> >> 2011 and set a draft for workshop activities. If you disagree,
> which>> it seems you might, can you suggest prose that might build
> on or
> >> extend the current draft to this end?
> >>
> >> If not, let's absolutely consider the suggested theme for CBW
> 2012.>>
> >> Thanks for your help!
> >> Shannon
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> >> On Apr 8, 2010, at 8:17 PM, "Susan Bernstein"
> <susan.naomi at gmail.com>>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks, Peter, for suggesting this-- and for the reference to
> >>> Rebecca and George's chapter. The demise of Basic Writing was
> also>>
> >>> the focus of my other presentation at CCCC-- the end of Basic
> >>> Writing at University of Cincinnati., housed in UC's soon-to-be
> >>> eliminated Center for Access and Transition (gone as of 6/30/10).
> >>>
> >>> And for the record, Basic Writing is NOT secure at community
> >>> colleges either. Recent articles in Inside Higher Education
> describe>>
> >>> problems in San Diego County, and a recent New York Times article
> >>> discusses the end of open admissions in the CUNY almost all of
> the>>> CUNY community colleges. Also CUNY-related: tenure track
> faculty at
> >>
> >>> the CUNY community colleges are expected to publish as part of
> >>> earning tenure; at the same time, although CUNY CC faculty can
> take>>
> >>> 24 hours of release time in their first 5 re-appointments,
> they are
> >>
> >>> required to teach 27 hours a year afterward.
> >>>
> >>> And so on.
> >>>
> >>> I understand that there is disagreement among us about whether or
> >>> not Basic Writing serves the public good. But I continue to
> stand>>> by what I said in Louisville: Basic Writing has served as
> a point of
> >>
> >>> access for students who might otherwise have NO opportunity to
> >>> attend college. And recent studies have indicated that
> students who
> >>
> >>> are least likely to attend college are also the most likely to
> >>> benefit from college.
> >>>
> >>> I would certainly welcome the direction that Peter suggests.
> What>>> do others think?
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Susan
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Adams, Peter D.
> <padams2 at ccbcmd.edu>>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> I would like to suggest a somewhat different approach . . .
> prompted>>
> >>> by two developments.
> >>>
> >>> One is my growing sense that basic writing is undergoing a sea
> >>> change. It's disappearing at many four year schools either
> >>> completely or because it has gone "underground" in the sense that
> >>> basic writing is hidden in FYC. In some places this is my
> political>>
> >>> fiat; in other places, it is because four-year schools themselves
> >>> are raising their admissions standards to the point that few
> basic>>> writers are being allowed in. Meanwhile, the bulk of
> basic writing
> >>
> >>> instruction is migrating to community colleges. What scares me
> about>>
> >>> this trend is that it may simply be a subtle way to gradually
> faze>>> out developmental writing (and reading and math)
> altogether. To
> >>> some of us, the democratizing function of basic writing, the
> social>>
> >>> justice effect, is the most important component of higher
> >>> education. If we are right, then it is alarming that this
> function>>
> >>> is being relocated to the most underfunded sector of higher
> >>> education, where many basic writing students will be taught by
> >>> adjuncts with little or no preparation and where there is
> currently>>
> >>> no support for the kind of scholarship that has been the
> hallmark of
> >>
> >>> basic writing for the past half century. Think about the
> articles>>> and books that have had a major influence on basic
> writing. How
> >>> many of these were produced in community colleges? How much
> >>> scholarship will there be in the future, if most basic writing
> takes>>
> >>> place in an environment where faculty teach fifteen credit
> hours per
> >>
> >>> semester and where there is little incentive, indeed, little
> >>> opportunity for serious scholarship.
> >>>
> >>> The second development is the publication of Rebecca and George
> >>> Otte's fabulous new history of basic writing, a book that has
> >>> crystalized my concern about the future of basic writing.
> >>>
> >>> I'd really like to see CBW begin to address these issues.
> First by
> >>
> >>> alerting people to them. Second by discussing what our response
> >>> might be. Is this a trend we should be resisting? Or should we
> >>> begin a campaign to improve the environment for serious
> scholarship>>
> >>> in community colleges? If there is, in fact, a growing political
> >>> momentum to end developmental education in higher education,
> >>> shouldn't we be taking on a more public role in explaining why
> this> >
> >>> is folly?
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure that what I'm suggesting is possible as a focus
> for the
> >>
> >>> workshop, but I do know that I think it should become a focus for
> >> CBW.
> >>>
> >>> Peter
> >>>
> >>> Peter Adams | Director of Accelerated Learning
> >>> Department of English
> >>> Community College Baltimore County
> >>> 443Åú710Åú1852 | padams2 at ccbcmd.edu
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: cbw_exec-bounces at tamu-commerce.edu on behalf of Shannon
> Carter>>> Sent: Thu 4/8/2010 7:50 PM
> >>> To: Conference of Basic Writing Executive Board
> >>> Subject: [CBW_Exec] CBW 2011 Planning
> >>>
> >>> Hi, all--
> >>>
> >>> It was wonderful to see you all last month and I©–m very
> excited abou
> >>
> >>> t all
> >>> that we©–ve accomplished thus far and all that appears to be
> on the h
> >>
> >>> orizon.
> >>>
> >>> In keeping with that spirit and planning our next steps,
> we©–ve been
> >>
> >>> hashing
> >>> out plans for upcoming CBW Workshop.
> >>>
> >>> Drawing from our conversations in Louisville, it seems the CBW
> 2011>>
> >>> has two
> >>> core goals:
> >>>>> 1. Figure out (together, as an organization) the core goals BW
> >>> might stand
> >>>>> for and, by extension, its professional organization
> >>>>> 2. Open up CBW to new folks (beyond our invitations to
> keynoters>>
> >>> based on
> >>>>> themes, which we©–ve attempted to solicit from folks not
> currently>>
> >>> involved
> >>>>> with CBW<Kevin Roozen, Steve Lamos, Valerie Kinlock, . . . And
> >>> then there©–s
> >>>>> this year).
> >>>>>
> >>> Thus, we decided to build a proposal that would leave room for an
> >>> open call
> >>> for proposals. In year©–s past the entire program has always
> been by
> >>> invitation only.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Questions for you:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. Attached is a draft of the CFP. Thoughts? Suggestions?
> >>> Revisions?
> >>>>> 2. What should be the deadline for submissions? On the attached
> >>> draft, I set
> >>>>> the deadline for CFP at random. Getting on the official CCCC
> >>> program after
> >>>>> the fact isn©–t going to work, unfortunately. I suspect
> Eilleen wi
> >>
> >>> ll make some
> >>>>> changes on a case-by-base basis, but we aren©–t able to
> count on t
> >>
> >>> hat option
> >>>>> after the CCCC deadline. We have two options, then: (a) we go
> >>> with a later
> >>>>> date and promise to create a separate CBW program and offer
> >>> official
> >>>>> acceptance letters to those selected or (b) we push the
> deadline>>
> >>> for CBW
> >>>>> proposals to BEFORE the CCCC deadline, then add the selected
> >>> names to the
> >>>>> program proposal we submit to CCCC in early May.
> >>>>> 3. Suggestions for keynoter/featured speakers that might do
> well>>
> >>> with
> >>>>> conference theme?
> >>>>>
> >>> Workshop agenda could look something like this, with
> presentations>> and
> >>> guided discussions in the morning leading to draft of mission
> >>> statement
> >>> before lunch and afternoon actually working together to develop
> >>> recommendations and other working items for CBW membership.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Notes on agenda, including potential times. Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>>> 1. 9-9:45--History and Future of Basic Writing (Opening Session/
> >>> panel/plenary
> >>>> speaker)--suggestions?
> >>>> 2. 9:45-10:45--Open Panel
> >>>> 3. COFFEE BREAK
> >>>> 4. 11:00-12:00--Discussion Groups, with leaders (Mission
> >>> Statement)--Guided
> >>>> discussions toward establishing core values that might feed into
> >>> CBW mission
> >>>> statement and inform afternoon conversations
> >>>> 5. 12:00-1:00--Lunch
> >>>> 6. 1:00-1:45--Local Contexts (plenary/keynote)---suggestions?
> >>>> 7. 1:45-2:45--Open Panel
> >>>> 8. BREAK
> >>>> 9. 3:00-4:30<Discussion Groups (also drawn from CFP and other
> >> means)
> >>>> 10. 4:30-5:00<Recommendations from Discussion Groups and Next
> >> Steps
> >>>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>> Shannon
> >>> --
> >>> Shannon Carter, PhD
> >>> Associate Professor of English
> >>> Director, Writing Programs
> >>> Department of Literature and Languages
> >>> Texas A&M University-Commerce
> >>> Commerce, Texas 75429-3011
> >>> Shannon_Carter at tamu-commerce.edu
> >>> http://www.shannoncarter.info
> >>>
> >>>
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