[CBW_Exec] CBW 2011 Planning
sgoen@sfsu.edu
sgoen at sfsu.edu
Tue Apr 13 15:31:16 CDT 2010
Deborah Mutnick might be interested. Shall we ask her?
>Sugie,
>
>Thanks so much for such a reasonable compromise.
>I would be happy to be part of such a panel.
>Any other takers?
>
>Peter
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: cbw_exec-bounces at tamu-commerce.edu
>[mailto:cbw_exec-bounces at tamu-commerce.edu] On
>Behalf Of Sugie Goen-Salter
>Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 2:46 PM
>To: Conference of Basic Writing Executive Board
>Subject: Re: [CBW_Exec] CBW 2011 Planning
>
>Hello everybody,
>Thanks Shannon for getting the CFP out to all of us for review. And
>thanks to Peter and Susan for voicing these really important concerns.
>I wonder if we can't "have it both ways" as it were for the 2011
>conference. We can keep the plans for the CBW meeting as we decided
>them in Louisville and as Shannon clearly articulates them in her
>email. But perhaps we could also bring some of the issues that Peter
>and Susan bring up to CCCCs as a whole by submitting a panel proposal
>to the main conference organized as Peter suggests around the last
>chapter in Rebecca's book. Issues this panel might address could
>include: the Past and Future of BW at CCCC's (how has BW's presence at
>C's changed over time: what is the current relationship of BW to
>C's); the Future of BW scholarship (who's doing it now where is it
>being done, how is it being supported, what are its central concerns);
>The Future of BW programs: what are the costs and benefits of
>supporting BW on 2 and 4 year college campuses? Where are BW programs
>(we assume they've largely disappeared from 4 year campuses and are
>now mostly on 2 yr, but as Susan points out, they aren't safe at 2 yr
>campuses either. And some elite universities still have BW programs
>e.g. Michigan,); The Future of BW students (who are BW students today?
>How are they served by BW programs?)
>
>These are just some ideas. My point is mainly that I think it's
>possible for us to have these important conversations both at the CBW
>workshop, but also in the main body of Cs. And, we can follow up, as
>appropriate in 2012.
>Any thoughts?
>Sugie
>
>
>On Apr 9, 2010, at 4:34 AM, J. Elizabeth Clark wrote:
>
>> Good morning colleagues!
>>
>> I share Susan & Peter's concerns, almost to the letter. I would like
>> to see us do a variety of things in response to this:
>>
>> 1. Move ahead with resolution (s) to CCCC
>> 2. Plan, perhaps, a stand alone CBW conference for 2012 or 2013 and
>> find a way to make it geographically interesting (Like, what if we
>> had 5
>> or 6 regional conferences but were able to teleconference during the
>> day?)
>>
>> But, I agree that we should move ahead with calls for panels &
>> presentations at our CBW meeting in 2011. I think there's real
>> interest
>> & it might get more folks interested in coming, connecting, etc.
>>
>> Liz
>>
>>
>> J. Elizabeth Clark, Ph.D.
>> Professor of English
>> LaGuardia Community College--CUNY
>> e-mail: lclark at lagcc.cuny.edu
>> Phone: 718.482.5665 http://faculty.lagcc.cuny.edu/eclark
>>
>>
>>>>> "Shannon Carter" <Shannon_Carter at tamu-commerce.edu> 4/8/2010 10:03
>> PM >>>
>> Great ideas, Susan and Peter.
>>
>> Just to clarify where we are with current proposal:
>>
>> 1. The materials we created and are asking for feedback on
>> (representing many, many hours of work, of course) are in response to
>>
>> the conference theme the EB discussed and approved during EB meeting
>> at CCCC last month and then announced at CBW SIG.
>>
>> 2. At that time, EB also discussed and approved plans to open up CBW
>> to proposals.
>>
>> To my mind, the wonderful points Peter raises and Susan extends are
>> *exactly* what we were responding to when we created the CFP for CBW
>> 2011 and set a draft for workshop activities. If you disagree, which
>> it seems you might, can you suggest prose that might build on or
>> extend the current draft to this end?
>>
>> If not, let's absolutely consider the suggested theme for CBW 2012.
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>> Shannon
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
> >
>> On Apr 8, 2010, at 8:17 PM, "Susan Bernstein" <susan.naomi at gmail.com>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Peter, for suggesting this-- and for the reference to
>>> Rebecca and George's chapter. The demise of Basic Writing was also
>>
>>> the focus of my other presentation at CCCC-- the end of Basic
>>> Writing at University of Cincinnati., housed in UC's soon-to-be
>>> eliminated Center for Access and Transition (gone as of 6/30/10).
>>>
>>> And for the record, Basic Writing is NOT secure at community
>>> colleges either. Recent articles in Inside Higher Education describe
>>
>>> problems in San Diego County, and a recent New York Times article
>>> discusses the end of open admissions in the CUNY almost all of the
>>> CUNY community colleges. Also CUNY-related: tenure track faculty at
>>
>>> the CUNY community colleges are expected to publish as part of
>>> earning tenure; at the same time, although CUNY CC faculty can take
>>
>>> 24 hours of release time in their first 5 re-appointments, they are
>>
>>> required to teach 27 hours a year afterward.
>>>
>>> And so on.
>>>
>>> I understand that there is disagreement among us about whether or
>>> not Basic Writing serves the public good. But I continue to stand
>>> by what I said in Louisville: Basic Writing has served as a point of
>>
>>> access for students who might otherwise have NO opportunity to
>>> attend college. And recent studies have indicated that students who
>>
>>> are least likely to attend college are also the most likely to
>>> benefit from college.
>>>
>>> I would certainly welcome the direction that Peter suggests. What
>>> do others think?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Susan
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Adams, Peter D. <padams2 at ccbcmd.edu>
>>
>>> wrote:
>>> I would like to suggest a somewhat different approach . . . prompted
>>
>>> by two developments.
>>>
>>> One is my growing sense that basic writing is undergoing a sea
>>> change. It's disappearing at many four year schools either
>>> completely or because it has gone "underground" in the sense that
>>> basic writing is hidden in FYC. In some places this is my political
>>
>>> fiat; in other places, it is because four-year schools themselves
>>> are raising their admissions standards to the point that few basic
>>> writers are being allowed in. Meanwhile, the bulk of basic writing
>>
>>> instruction is migrating to community colleges. What scares me about
>>
>>> this trend is that it may simply be a subtle way to gradually faze
>>> out developmental writing (and reading and math) altogether. To
>>> some of us, the democratizing function of basic writing, the social
>>
>>> justice effect, is the most important component of higher
>>> education. If we are right, then it is alarming that this function
>>
>>> is being relocated to the most underfunded sector of higher
>>> education, where many basic writing students will be taught by
>>> adjuncts with little or no preparation and where there is currently
>>
>>> no support for the kind of scholarship that has been the hallmark of
>>
>>> basic writing for the past half century. Think about the articles
>>> and books that have had a major influence on basic writing. How
>>> many of these were produced in community colleges? How much
>>> scholarship will there be in the future, if most basic writing takes
>>
>>> place in an environment where faculty teach fifteen credit hours per
>>
>>> semester and where there is little incentive, indeed, little
>>> opportunity for serious scholarship.
>>>
>>> The second development is the publication of Rebecca and George
>>> Otte's fabulous new history of basic writing, a book that has
>>> crystalized my concern about the future of basic writing.
>>>
>>> I'd really like to see CBW begin to address these issues. First by
>>
>>> alerting people to them. Second by discussing what our response
>>> might be. Is this a trend we should be resisting? Or should we
>>> begin a campaign to improve the environment for serious scholarship
>>
>>> in community colleges? If there is, in fact, a growing political
>>> momentum to end developmental education in higher education,
>>> shouldn't we be taking on a more public role in explaining why this
> >
>>> is folly?
>>>
>>> I'm not sure that what I'm suggesting is possible as a focus for the
>>
>>> workshop, but I do know that I think it should become a focus for
>> CBW.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> Peter Adams | Director of Accelerated Learning
>>> Department of English
>>> Community College Baltimore County
>>> 443Åú710Åú1852 | padams2 at ccbcmd.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: cbw_exec-bounces at tamu-commerce.edu on behalf of Shannon Carter
>>> Sent: Thu 4/8/2010 7:50 PM
>>> To: Conference of Basic Writing Executive Board
>>> Subject: [CBW_Exec] CBW 2011 Planning
>>>
>>> Hi, all--
>>>
>>> It was wonderful to see you all last month and I©–m very excited abou
>>
>>> t all
>>> that we©–ve accomplished thus far and all that appears to be on the h
>>
>>> orizon.
>>>
>>> In keeping with that spirit and planning our next steps, we©–ve been
>>
>>> hashing
>>> out plans for upcoming CBW Workshop.
>>>
>>> Drawing from our conversations in Louisville, it seems the CBW 2011
>>
>>> has two
>>> core goals:
>>>>> 1. Figure out (together, as an organization) the core goals BW
>>> might stand
>>>>> for and, by extension, its professional organization
>>>>> 2. Open up CBW to new folks (beyond our invitations to keynoters
>>
>>> based on
>>>>> themes, which we©–ve attempted to solicit from folks not currently
>>
>>> involved
>>>>> with CBW<Kevin Roozen, Steve Lamos, Valerie Kinlock, . . . And
>>> then there©–s
>>>>> this year).
>>>>>
>>> Thus, we decided to build a proposal that would leave room for an
>>> open call
>>> for proposals. In year©–s past the entire program has always been by
>>> invitation only.
>>>>>
>>>> Questions for you:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Attached is a draft of the CFP. Thoughts? Suggestions?
>>> Revisions?
>>>>> 2. What should be the deadline for submissions? On the attached
>>> draft, I set
>>>>> the deadline for CFP at random. Getting on the official CCCC
>>> program after
>>>>> the fact isn©–t going to work, unfortunately. I suspect Eilleen wi
>>
>>> ll make some
>>>>> changes on a case-by-base basis, but we aren©–t able to count on t
>>
>>> hat option
>>>>> after the CCCC deadline. We have two options, then: (a) we go
>>> with a later
>>>>> date and promise to create a separate CBW program and offer
>>> official
>>>>> acceptance letters to those selected or (b) we push the deadline
>>
>>> for CBW
>>>>> proposals to BEFORE the CCCC deadline, then add the selected
>>> names to the
>>>>> program proposal we submit to CCCC in early May.
>>>>> 3. Suggestions for keynoter/featured speakers that might do well
>>
>>> with
>>>>> conference theme?
>>>>>
>>> Workshop agenda could look something like this, with presentations
>> and
>>> guided discussions in the morning leading to draft of mission
>>> statement
>>> before lunch and afternoon actually working together to develop
>>> recommendations and other working items for CBW membership.
>>>>>
>>>> Notes on agenda, including potential times. Thoughts?
>>>
>>>> 1. 9-9:45--History and Future of Basic Writing (Opening Session/
>>> panel/plenary
>>>> speaker)--suggestions?
>>>> 2. 9:45-10:45--Open Panel
>>>> 3. COFFEE BREAK
>>>> 4. 11:00-12:00--Discussion Groups, with leaders (Mission
>>> Statement)--Guided
>>>> discussions toward establishing core values that might feed into
>>> CBW mission
>>>> statement and inform afternoon conversations
>>>> 5. 12:00-1:00--Lunch
>>>> 6. 1:00-1:45--Local Contexts (plenary/keynote)---suggestions?
>>>> 7. 1:45-2:45--Open Panel
>>>> 8. BREAK
>>>> 9. 3:00-4:30<Discussion Groups (also drawn from CFP and other
>> means)
>>>> 10. 4:30-5:00<Recommendations from Discussion Groups and Next
>> Steps
>>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Shannon
>>> --
>>> Shannon Carter, PhD
>>> Associate Professor of English
>>> Director, Writing Programs
>>> Department of Literature and Languages
>>> Texas A&M University-Commerce
>>> Commerce, Texas 75429-3011
>>> Shannon_Carter at tamu-commerce.edu
>>> http://www.shannoncarter.info
>>>
>>>
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