[COSEAfaculty] Call for motions on CoSEATenureandPromotionCommittee (Tenured/Tenure-Track faculty only)
Derald Harp
Derald.Harp at tamuc.edu
Mon Sep 17 17:21:30 CDT 2012
Brent;
But then where do the alternates come from? They should be elected at large, so do we run the risk of violating our procedure that limits representation to one per department?
I also suggest changing one of the 3rd year people to a first year. Then we have a 1st year, two 2nd year, and two 3rd year. The other two departments would fill the alternate slots and only those departments would be eligible for the expiring terms.
Thanks,
Derald
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On Sep 17, 2012, at 4:34 PM, "Brent Donham" <Brent.Donham at tamuc.edu> wrote:
> I understand your concerns. However, my position comes from a department that has not had any representation in the prior college so it is important to us to have our department represented. The 5 member committee does not provide that for the first few years based on the proposal.
>
> Brent
>
> From: coseafaculty-bounces at tamuc.edu [mailto:coseafaculty-bounces at tamuc.edu] On Behalf Of Derald Harp
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 4:24 PM
> To: coseafaculty at tamu-commerce.edu
> Subject: Re: [COSEAfaculty] Call for motions on CoSEATenureandPromotionCommittee (Tenured/Tenure-Track faculty only)
>
> Brent and Jeff;
>
> As mentioned before, a 7 member committee often places undue burdens on departments that frequently have a scarcity of tenured faculty members. I recommend a 5 member committee with two alternates.
>
> Sincerely,
> Derald
>
> Derald A. Harp, Ph.D.
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> Associate Professor - Horticulture
> Faculty Senate President
> SACS Compliance Committee Chair
> Department of Agricultural Sciences
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> Commerce, TX 75429
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> Derald.Harp at tamuc.edu
>
>
>
> From: coseafaculty-bounces at tamuc.edu [mailto:coseafaculty-bounces at tamuc.edu] On Behalf Of Brent Donham
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 4:16 PM
> To: Jeffrey Kopachena; Grady P Blount; coseafaculty at tamu-commerce.edu
> Subject: Re: [COSEAfaculty] Call for motions on CoSEA TenureandPromotionCommittee (Tenured/Tenure-Track faculty only)
>
> I second the motion for a 7 member committee. (Should have read all of my emails before I made a motion)
>
> Brent
>
> From: coseafaculty-bounces at tamuc.edu [mailto:coseafaculty-bounces at tamuc.edu] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Kopachena
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:41 PM
> To: Grady P Blount; coseafaculty at tamu-commerce.edu
> Subject: Re: [COSEAfaculty] Call for motions on CoSEA Tenure andPromotionCommittee (Tenured/Tenure-Track faculty only)
>
> I move to adopt the seven-member committee.
>
> Dr. Jeff Kopachena,
> Professor, Department of Biological and Environmental Sciences,
> Texas A&M University – Commerce,
> Commerce, TX 75429
>
> Phone: 903 886-5395
> Email: Jeff_Kopachena at tamu-commerce.edu
>
> “If I could explain it to the average person, I wouldn't have been worth the Nobel Prize.” Albert Einstein
>
> From: coseafaculty-bounces at tamuc.edu [mailto:coseafaculty-bounces at tamuc.edu] On Behalf Of Grady P Blount
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 1:32 PM
> To: coseafaculty at tamu-commerce.edu
> Subject: [COSEAfaculty] Call for motions on CoSEA Tenure and PromotionCommittee (Tenured/Tenure-Track faculty only)
>
> Greetings:
>
> I am writing to request motions on creating the permanent form of the CoSEA T&P Committee. Any motion sent to the group will have to have a second from the group. As you recall, the discussion has centered around five-member vs seven-members. I’m sure our mathematically-inclined colleagues may have a different take on the analysis below. Motions are not restricted to these options.
>
> Here is our status as of the current 2012-2013 academic year (FY13), sorted by department:
>
> AGRI – Williams – 3rd year
> CSCI – Saffer – 3rd year
> PHYS – Rogers – 3rd year
> MATH – Sirakov – 2nd year
> ALTERNATE: BESC – Kopachena – 2nd year
>
>
> In the tables below, 1, 2, and 3 refer to the term of each position. So 1 = 1st year, 2nd year, etc.
>
> If we go with a five member committee:
> NAME FY13 FY14 FY15 FY16 FY17
> Saffer (CSCI) 3 1 2 3 1
> Williams (ARGI) 3 1 2 3 1
> Rogers (PHYS) 3 1 2 3 1
> Sirakov (MATH) 2 3 1 2 3
> New Member* 1 2 3 1 2
> The questions here would be:
> (a) Do we elect a new member at large or from an unrepresented department? Or,
> (b) Do we vote to move our existing alternate (Kopachena)* into the open slot as 1 1st or 2nd year member?
> (c) Would you like to restrict the home departments of the five members? (e.g. “No more than one per department, two per department, etc.)?
> (d) Or do you prefer five “at-large” members without regard to home department?
>
> If we go with a seven member committee w/one from each department:
> NAME FY13 FY14 FY15 FY16 FY17
> Saffer (CSCI) 3 1 2 3 1
> Williams (ARGI) 3 1 2 3 1
> Rogers (PHYS) 3 1 2 3 1
> Sirakov (MATH) 2 3 1 2 3
> New Member (BESC) 1 2 3 1 2
> New Member (CHEM) 1 2 3 1 2
> New Member (ENGR) 1 2 3 1 2
> If we go with this department-based representation, we still have question (b) from above.
>
>
> = = = = = SUMMARY = = = = =
>
> The five year option has us rotating 3 of the 5 members every 3 years leaving only two experienced members at the start of every 3rd year + one person rotations during each of the other two years leaving 4 experienced members.
>
> The seven year option has us rotating 3 of 7 members every 3 years leaving four experienced members each time + MATH fills the ad-hoc term period created by having 7 members with 3 year terms.
>
> Both will have to have two alternates (bee TAMUC Procedure below). One alternate (Kopachena) already exists and is in year 2 of that alternate status. Given the topology of this situation I am assuming the alternates would have to be “at large”.
>
> = = = = = CLOSE SUMMARY = = = = =
>
> In the interest of moving this along, I will entertain motions to the group until 5 PM on Wednesday. We’ll have a college-wide vote of the Tenured/Tenure-Track faculty on Thursday.
>
> -Grady
>
> ===============================================
> Grady Price Blount (근덕), Ph.D., Professor of Physics and Dean
> College of Science, Engineering & Agriculture (CoSEA)
> Texas A&M University-Commerce
> Commerce, Texas 75429-3011
> Telephones: 903-886-5781 (office) 325-716-0450 (cell)
> ===============================================
> Talent hits a target no one else can hit.
> Genius hits a target no one else can see.
> -Schopenhauer
>
>
>
>
> Recall for reference the TAMUC Procedure which must be observed:
>
> 1) Each college will have a Tenure and Promotion Advisory Committee.
> 2) Members will be elected by a vote of tenured and tenure-track faculty in
> each college for a three year staggered term.
> 3) Only full-time tenured faculty, holding the rank of associate professor or above, are eligible to serve.
> 4) Not eligible are department heads, assistant deans, and deans.
> 5) Each college may have up to but no more than seven members.
> 6) Membership to the Tenure and Promotion Advisory Committee will be determined by policy set by each College. (?? whatever this means)
> 7) In addition, each college will elect two alternates.
> 8) No faculty member who is being considered for promotion in rank shall, at that time,
> be eligible to serve on the College Promotion and Tenure Advisory Committee.
> 9) Members will be elected at-large from their respective colleges, except that
> no department shall have more than one representative on the committee at
> any time.
> 10) If a candidate is being considered for tenure and/or promotion
> whose department has no representative on the committee, the department
> head, in consultation with the candidate, will appoint a nonvoting
> representative to the committee from the candidate’s department. If no one
> in the department meets the criteria for appointment, the selection will be
> made from qualified faculty members within the college.
> 11) A member of the College Tenure and Promotion Advisory Committee is
> eligible to serve no more than two consecutive three-year terms.
>
> If I might make a suggestion for a transition period:
> PLAN A
> Year 2011: Already past with 4 members: A(year1) B(year1) C(year1) D(year1)
>
> Year 2012: Eelect 2 more member and 2 alternates:
> 6 members: A(year2) B(year2) C(year2) D(year2) E(year1) F(year1)
>
> Year 2013: Eelect 1 more member and alternates as needed:
> 7 members: A(year3) B(year3) C(year3) D(year3) E(year2) F(year2) G(year1)
>
> Year 2014: Eelect 2 more members and go down to 5 members:
> 5 members: E(year3) F(year3) G(year2) H(year1) I(year1)
>
> Year 2015: Eelect 2 more member and alternates as needed:
> 5 members: G(year3) H(year2) I(year2) J(year1) K(year1)
>
> Stay at 5 members and loose no more than 2 experienced (3 year) members each year.
>
>
> PLAN B
>
> Year 2011: Already past with 4 members: A(year1) B(year1) C(year1) D(year1)
>
> Year 2012: Elect 1 more member and 2 alternates: Limit a current member to 2 years only.
> 5 members: A(year2) B(year2) C(year2) D(year2) E(year1)
>
> Year 2013: Elect 1 more member and alternates as needed: Extend A to 4 years.
> 5 members: B(year3) C(year3) D(year3) E(year2) F(year1)
>
> Year 2014: Elect 2 more members and alternates as needed:
> 5 members: A(year4) E(year3) F(year2) G(year1) H(year1)
>
> Year 2015: Elect 2 more members and alternates as needed:
> 5 members: F(year3) G(year2) H(year2) I(year1) J(year1)
>
> Year 2016: Elect 1 more members and alternates as needed:
> 5 members: G(year3) H(year3) I(year2) J(year2) K(year1)
>
> This will get you back to a 3 year membership electing 1 or 2 new members each year and at least 2 members will have 3 years of experience.
>
>
>
> From: Grady P Blount
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 1:23 AM
> To: Sam Saffer
> Subject: RE: Accademic Affairs Tenure and Promotion Committee
>
> Thanks mucho Sam.
> The problem I am detecting is that we have only been a college for 1 year!
>
> ========================================
> Grady Price Blount, Ph.D., Professor of Physics and Dean,
> College of Science, Engineering & Agriculture (CoSEA)
> Texas A&M University-Commerce
> Commerce, Texas 75429-3011
> Telephones: 903-886-5781 (office) 325-716-0450 (cell)
> ========================================
> Talent hits a target no one else can hit.
> Genius hits a target no one else can see.
> -Schopenhauer
>
> From: Sam Saffer
> Sent: Thu 9/6/2012 8:37 PM
> To: Grady P Blount
> Subject: RE: Accademic Affairs Tenure and Promotion Committee
>
> The term is for 3 years, so anyone who has been there for 3 years will be rotating off. Let me check my old emails and try to determine the time line.
> Sam
>
> From: Grady P Blount
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:08 AM
> To: Sam Saffer
> Subject: FW: Accademic Affairs Tenure and Promotion Committee
>
> Hi Sam:
> Do you recall the procedures on terms and elections for the P&T committee? Do we have anyone rotating off who needs to be replaced?
> Thanks a bunch, Grady
>
> ===============================================
> Grady Price Blount (근덕), Ph.D., Professor of Physics and Dean
> College of Science, Engineering & Agriculture (CoSEA)
> Texas A&M University-Commerce
> Commerce, Texas 75429-3011
> Telephones: 903-886-5781 (office) 325-716-0450 (cell)
> ===============================================
> Talent hits a target no one else can hit.
> Genius hits a target no one else can see.
> -Schopenhauer
>
> From: Rhonda Ferguson
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 1:51 PM
> To: Brent Mangus; Dale Funderburk; Salvatore Attardo; Grady P Blount
> Cc: Larissa ter Veer; Belinda Benson; Lisa Rabe
> Subject: Accademic Affairs Tenure and Promotion Committee
>
> Have the following committees been elected – if so, please forward me the new members.
> Academic Affairs Tenure & Promotion (2011-2012)
> College of Business: Chuck Arize, John Humphreys, Steve Shwiff
> College of Education & Human Services: Amir Abbassi, Wade Fish, Barbara Hammack, Linda Openshaw, Tara Tietjen-Smith.
> College of Humananities, Social Sciences & Arts: John Hanners, Hunter Hayes, Michael Miller, Yvonne Villanueva-Russell, Brian Zator. Alternate: William Thompson
> College of Science, Engineering & Agriculture: Sam Saffer, Bob Williams, Charles Rogers, Nikolay Sirakov
> Thank you.
>
> ***********************************************
> Rhonda Ferguson
> Administrative Assistant to the President’s Office
> Texas A&M University-Commerce
> P.O. Box 3011
> Commerce, TX 75429
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> 903.886.5010 fax
> Rhonda.Ferguson at tamuc.edu
>
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