[CBW_Exec] FW: Wednesday workshop question

Tue Apr 19 12:56:59 CDT 2011

Hi everyone,
Just got back from another conference after Cs, so just getting  
caught up. So if I understand correctly, we will no longer be asking  
Bruce Horner to be part of a featured panel, but he will now  
participate in the CBW workshop? Do we have an alternative plan for  
the panel we'd like to have considered for a featured slot?
Sugie
On Apr 18, 2011, at 4:29 AM, Lalicker, William wrote:

> Liz, I like this structure very much. We have a broad theory 
> +history framework from Bruce Horner, then the excellent practices  
> of ALP from Peter Adams, and then our open-call invitation to new  
> voices in BW. I think this will be a very stimulating and  
> productive workshop.
>
> The one detail that came up in the EB meeting is that several  
> individuals thought we had, possibly, too many voices, without  
> enough time for reflection and discussion, in the open-call  
> conference section, so we may want to adjust the length of the  
> talks and the q+a in that last segment. Once we've got that  
> settled, we can go to the whole list.
>
> Happy Monday...
>
> Bill
>
> ~~~~~
>
> William B. Lalicker, Ph.D.
> Professor of English (Main Hall, Room 534, 610.436.2268)
> Dean's Assistant for Student Issues (Anderson Hall, Room 119C,  
> 610.436.3521)
> College of Arts and Sciences
> West Chester University
> West Chester, PA 19383
> wlalicker at wcupa.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cbw_exec-bounces at tamu-commerce.edu [mailto:cbw_exec- 
> bounces at tamu-commerce.edu] On Behalf Of J. Elizabeth Clark
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 6:49 AM
> To: Gregory.Glau at nau.edu; cbw_exec at tamu-commerce.edu
> Subject: Re: [CBW_Exec] FW: Wednesday workshop question
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
>
> I am so excited by all of this conversation & these ideas! I think we
> are all still basking in the glow of the energy from CCCC.
>
>
> I know that we had very definite ideas about the pre-conference  
> session
> at the EB meeting. What if we shift that to put all of this together:
>
>
> The theme of the conference is "gateways"
>
>
> What if we focused our preconference session on Basic Writing as an
> essential gateway to college:
>
>
> 1. Bruce Horner, who Hannah and I invited to speak, would like to join
> us if the timing works out. So:
>
>
> 1. Welcome
> 2. Opening Remarks on the year (updates, what we've done, maybe  
> mission
> statement, etc.)
> 3. Bruce Horner, framing issues in Basic Writing
> 4. Extended ALP panel (2 hours? 3 hours?) feature ALP as one
> contemporary iteration of Basic Writing that provides a gateway.
> LUNCH BREAK
> 5. Open panels by our open call (2 hours)
> 6. Smaller working group session (1 hour or so on
> CBW/Mission/Charter/etc.)
>
>
> That gives us 3 featured speaker slots: Bruce, ALP, and the open call
> panelists plus some working time.
>
>
> It's different from what we were planning. What do you think?
>
>
> I don't want to take away from either ALP or CBW.
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> J. Elizabeth Clark, Ph.D.
> Professor of English
> LaGuardia Community College--CUNY
> e-mail:  lclark at lagcc.cuny.edu
> Phone:  718.482.5665
> www.jelizabethclark.com
>>>> Gregory R Glau  04/17/11 7:52 PM >>>
> Hi, all,
>
> I may have missed some of this conversation--that time of the
> semester--but I tend to agree with Kathleen and others who've noted
> that, somehow, a half-day workshop does not seem as "important" as a
> full-day workshop, and I think that's true from the Cs' perspective as
> well as those attending the workshop.
>
> I also wonder if CBW did a half-day and Peter's group did a half  
> day, if
> they might end up competing with one another, as none of us has  
> control
> over morning or afternoon scheduling?
>
> I also wonder if Peter's workshop could somehow be folded-into the CBW
> workshop, as a special feature for the all-day workshop?
>
> thanks,
>
>
> gg
>
> ------------------------------------
> Greg Glau
> Associate Professor and Director, University Writing Program
> Northern Arizona University
> PO Box 6032
> Flagstaff, AZ 86001-6032
> ________________________________________
> From: cbw_exec-bounces at tamu-commerce.edu
> [cbw_exec-bounces at tamu-commerce.edu] on behalf of Adams, Peter D.
> [padams2 at ccbcmd.edu]
> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 12:56 PM
> To: Conference of Basic Writing Executive Board
> Subject: Re: [CBW_Exec] FW: Wednesday workshop question
>
> So here's how this idea got started.  The folks here and at several
> other schools offering ALP wanted to propose a pre-conference workshop
> on ALP.  I wrote the co-chairs of CBW to ask whether having a second
> one-day workshop on bw would be seen as a sign of the health of bw at
> CCCC or might it, in fact, threaten that health by having two  
> workshops
> competing for the same attendees.
>
> I offered that if competing for the same attendees seemed like a bad
> idea, we could postpone our workshop for a year.  Liz suggested  
> that two
> half-day workshops might be the best compromise, but thought we should
> ask the EB.  So we are.
>
>
>
> Peter
>
> Peter Adams | Director of Accelerated Learning Program
> Department of English
> Essex Campus
> Community College of Baltimore County
> 7201 Rossville Blvd
> Baltimore, MD 21237
> 443*710*1852 | padams2 at ccbcmd.edu
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cbw_exec-bounces at tamu-commerce.edu on behalf of kbaca at nmsu.edu
> Sent: Sun 4/17/2011 2:06 PM
> To: Conference of Basic Writing Executive Board
> Subject: Re: [CBW_Exec] FW: Wednesday workshop question
>
> Thank you for the discussion on this issue. I would hate to see CBW go
> to a half
> day. This full- day preconference is the ONE chance that many folks
> involved in
> BW get to participate in the scholarship of our field. If we try to  
> get
> it all
> in three hours, we just don't have the impact that a full day makes
> possible.
> The workshop sets up the conference for the 20-50 people who are  
> able to
> attend.
>
> I also think that cutting it to a half day lessens the impact of the
> Sense of
> the House Motion. If we don't believe that BW warrants a full day, why
> should it
> be considered for featured sessions or its own strand?
>
> Think of how many ideas we suggested for the precon. We basically  
> had to
> narrow
> it to only two, and then choose from those. If we cut that time in  
> half,
> we are
> necessitating the removal of half the content. And part of the draw is
> the
> workshop format, which is possible in part because of the length of  
> time
> we have.
>
> ALP is a proven program, it will continue to have positive effects  
> where
> it is
> implemented, and it should be one of the ideas supported by CBW. I  
> think
> it was
> even part of the precon a couple of years ago. I just don't think we
> should
> halve what we offer for it or any other program, no matter how
> promising.
>
> While I see alternative points, I suggest that we continue with the
> planned
> full-day preconference. kb
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Susan Bernstein
> Date: Sunday, April 17, 2011 10:45 am
> Subject: Re: [CBW_Exec] FW: Wednesday workshop question
> To: Conference of Basic Writing Executive Board
>
>> ALP definitely should have its own workshop. It is an important
>> innovationthat deserves its own time slot and audience, and that
>> fully complements the
>> work of CBW.
>>
>> However, a full-day CBW workshop would have a different goal than the
>> separate halves of an ALP or a CBW workshop. CBW helps to create  new
>> scholarship in the field -- and to foster a discussion on new
>> scholarshipfor people just beginning and/or overworked and under-
>> resourced in the
>> field. In other words, CBW's full-day workshop serves
>> teacher/scholars who
>> otherwise would not have access to new scholarship or to the
>> resources for
>> creating new scholarship.
>>
>> But I also believe the $40 full-day workshop price keeps lots of
>> folks away.
>> Prompted by Barbara Gleason, we tried to initiate a conversation
>> with CCCC
>> about changing the price when Kathleen and I were chairs, but to no
>> avail.
>> SO: I would support a full day for CBW, but would agree to a 1/2
>> day if
>> that's the general consensus-- with one caveat. If we decide on a
>> half day
>> for St. Louis in 2012, we need to revisit doing a full-day again
>> for Vegas
>> in 2013.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Susan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Kelly Ritter
>> wrote:
>>> I think this is a great idea, as it would also allow some in-out
>> flow> regarding the BW crowd (some will do AM, some PM, for the
>> ALP, some both)
>>> and would open up participation for BW folks in other afternoon
>> sessions,> like RNF or another workshop, if they were familiar with
>> or not currently
>>> interested in ALP.
>>>
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Shannon Carter <
>>> Shannon_Carter at tamu-commerce.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ashley, Hannah [mailto:HAshley at wcupa.edu ]
>>>> Sent: Sun 4/17/2011 10:22 AM
>>>> To: cbw_exec-bounces at tamu-commerce.edu
>>>> Subject: FW: Wednesday workshop question
>>>>
>>>> So, Exec Board--
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What do you think about the idea of doing a half-day Wednesday
>> workshop>> from CBW in the morning, and requesting that it not
>> compete with ALP which
>>>> could do a workshop in the afternoon?  Not that they'd be
>> proposed as part
>>>> of same workshop, but but explicitly asking they not conflict and
>>>> acknowleding similar draws?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Feedback?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hannah
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hannah Ashley, Ph.D.
>>>> Associate Professor of English, Composition & Rhetoric
>>>> Director, Writing Zones 12.5  (
>>>> www.writingzones.net)
>>>> 543 Main Hall, West Chester University
>>>> West Chester, PA 19383
>>>> 610-436-2371
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "For years I pulled my own existence out of emptiness. Then one
>> swoop, one
>>>> swing of the arm, that work is over."  Rumi
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Adams, Peter D. [padams2 at ccbcmd.edu]
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:01 PM
>>>> To: Ashley, Hannah
>>>> Subject: RE: Workshops on BW at CCCC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If that's okay with you two, it would be great for us.  I do
>> think it
>>>> would be good to run it past the EB.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> Peter Adams | Director of Accelerated Learning Program
>>>> Department of English
>>>> Essex Campus
>>>> Community College of Baltimore County
>>>> 7201 Rossville Blvd
>>>> Baltimore, MD 21237
>>>> 443.710.1852 | padams2 at ccbcmd.edu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ashley, Hannah [mailto:HAshley at wcupa.edu ]
>>>> Sent: Fri 4/15/2011 11:54 AM
>>>> To: Adams, Peter D.; J. Elizabeth Clark
>>>> Subject: RE: Workshops on BW at CCCC
>>>>
>>>> Yes, perhaps we should propose a half day each, if folks think a
>> good>> idea. Send to EB?
>>>>
>>>> Hannah
>>>>
>>>> Hannah Ashley, Ph.D.
>>>> Director, Writing Zones 12.5 (www.writingzones.net)
>>>> Service Learning Faculty Associate, WCU
>>>> Associate Professor of Composition and Rhetoric
>>>> Main Hall 543
>>>> Department of English, West Chester University
>>>> Spring 2001 Office Hours: M, 2-4, W 2-3, F 11-12
>>>>
>>>> I was part of a generation of kids who saw something special
>> about what it
>>>> means to be human--something bloody and dramatic and scandalous
>> that>> happened right here in America--and hip-hop was our way of
>> reporting that
>>>> story, telling it to ourselves and to the world...the story of
>> the hustler
>>>> was the story hip-hop was born to tell...hustling is the
>> ultimate metaphor
>>>> for the basic human struggles: the struggle to survive and
>> resist...to win
>>>> and make sense of it all.  --from Jay-Z, Decoded (2010)
>>>>
>>>> From: Adams, Peter D. [mailto:padams2 at ccbcmd.edu
>> ]>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:05 AM
>>>> To: Ashley, Hannah; J. Elizabeth Clark
>>>> Subject: RE: Workshops on BW at CCCC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Liz makes an interesting suggestion.  If we each did a half day
>> workshop,>> we would be offering to basic writing workshops without
>> competing for
>>>> audience.  A different way to compromise would be for us simply
>> to postpone
>>>> our idea a year, which we'd certainly be willing to do.  Or, we
>> could take
>>>> the risk of offering both and letting those proverbial "chips"
>> fall.>>
>>>> Would you like to see what the EB says about the question?
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> Peter Adams | Director of Accelerated Learning Program
>>>> Department of English
>>>> Essex Campus
>>>> Community College of Baltimore County
>>>> 7201 Rossville Blvd
>>>> Baltimore, MD 21237
>>>> 443*710*1852 | padams2 at ccbcmd.edu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ashley, Hannah [mailto:HAshley at wcupa.edu ]
>>>> Sent: Fri 4/15/2011 9:00 AM
>>>> To: J. Elizabeth Clark; Adams, Peter D.
>>>> Subject: RE: Workshops on BW at CCCC
>>>>
>>>> I agree, Peter, that if you feel like there is enough energy to
>> do a
>>>> workshop just devoted to ALP--do it and let the chips fall where
>> they may.
>>>>
>>>> Hannah
>>>>
>>>> Hannah Ashley, Ph.D.
>>>> Associate Professor of English, Composition & Rhetoric
>>>> Director, Writing Zones 12.5  (www.writingzones.net)
>>>> 543 Main Hall, West Chester University
>>>> West Chester, PA 19383
>>>> 610-436-2371
>>>>
>>>> "For years I pulled my own existence out of emptiness. Then one
>> swoop, one
>>>> swing of the arm, that work is over."  Rumi
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: J. Elizabeth Clark [lclark at lagcc.cuny.edu]
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:24 AM
>>>> To: padams2 at ccbcmd.edu; Ashley, Hannah
>>>> Subject: Re: Workshops on BW at CCCC
>>>>
>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope you're well.  I think it's definitely important for you to
>> have an
>>>> audience for ALP at CCCC. Is there someway we might join forces?
>> For>> example, if you did an ALP workshop from 9-12 and then joined
>> us from
>>>> 1-4? Or, would that make your day too short? Just brainstorming
>> here.>>
>>>>
>>>> Liz
>>>>
>>>> J. Elizabeth Clark, Ph.D.
>>>> Professor of English
>>>> LaGuardia Community College--CUNY
>>>> e-mail:  lclark at lagcc.cuny.edu
>>>> Phone:  718.482.5665
>>>> www.jelizabethclark.com
>>>>>>> "Adams, Peter D."  04/15/11 12:25 AM >>>
>>>> Hannah and Liz,
>>>>
>>>> As you know, at CCBC we have developed an accelerated approach
>> to basic
>>>> writing we call ALP, which has met with considerable success in
>>>> improving students' success rates.  More than twenty schools
>> across the
>>>> nation are now piloting some sections of ALP and many more are
>>>> interested.
>>>>
>>>> My colleagues and I have been thinking about proposing a pre-
>> conference>> workshop at CCCC on starting up ALP but we are worried
>> about the effect
>>>> that might have on the CBW workshop.  On the one hand, it might
>> be a
>>>> sign of the healthiness of basic writing if there were two
>> workshops,>> both on basic writing.  In the other hand, we might
>> end up splitting the
>>>> audience and ending up with 15 or 20 at each session.
>>>>
>>>> So I thought I'd ask what you think.  Would you view our
>> offering such a
>>>> workshop as a sign of the health of the field or as a
>> competition that
>>>> is unhealthy for both of us?
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> Peter Adams | Director of Accelerated Learning Program
>>>> Department of English
>>>> Essex Campus
>>>> Community College of Baltimore County
>>>> 7201 Rossville Blvd
>>>> Baltimore, MD 21237
>>>> 443*710*1852 | padams2 at ccbcmd.edu
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