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</b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Nikolay Sirakov <Nikolay.Sirakov@tamuc.edu>, Yasemin Atinc <Yasemin.Atinc@tamuc.edu>, Stephen Starnes <Stephen.Starnes@tamuc.edu>, Stephen Furlich <Stephen.Furlich@tamuc.edu>,
Brad Klypchak <Brad.Klypchak@tamuc.edu>, Brandon Randolph-Seng <Brandon.Randolph-Seng@tamuc.edu>, Carlos Bertulani <Carlos.Bertulani@tamuc.edu>, Carrie Klypchak <Carrie.Klypchak@tamuc.edu>, Dongmei Cheng <Dongmei.Cheng@tamuc.edu>, Hongmei Jia <Hongmei.Jia@tamuc.edu>,
Jason Davis <Jason.Davis@tamuc.edu>, Jeanette Vaughan <Jeanette.Vaughan@tamuc.edu>, Jimmy Womack <James.Womack@tamuc.edu>, Josephine Durkin <Josephine.Durkin@tamuc.edu>, Julee Walker DMA <Julee.Walker@tamuc.edu>, Julia Ballenger <Julia.Ballenger@tamuc.edu>,
Kelly Featherston <Kelly.Featherston@tamuc.edu>, Leslie Ekpe <Leslie.Ekpe@tamuc.edu>, Maggie Salem <Maggie.Salem@tamuc.edu>, MaryJo Dondlinger <MaryJo.Dondlinger@tamuc.edu>, Mei Jiang <Mei.Jiang@tamuc.edu>, Omar Elariss <Omar.El.Ariss@tamuc.edu>, Ozum Yesiltas
PhD <Ozum.Yesiltas@tamuc.edu>, Rusty Fox <Rusty.Fox@tamuc.edu>, Tami Morton <Tami.Morton@tamuc.edu>, William Kuracina <William.Kuracina@tamuc.edu>, Adam Northam <Adam.Northam@tamuc.edu>, Avril Knox <Avril.Knox@tamuc.edu><br>
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My department did not offer much feedback but essentially what people said were the following:</div>
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-This seems overall very similar to how we already do T&P (CHSSA already does external letters, for instance). No problem with that </div>
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-This makes going up for early tenure more difficult- moving from 3rd year review to 4th year review. Also what does it mean to say there are higher expectations for early tenure? Isn’t it enough to meet the bar early? </div>
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-Why are only 3 faculty voting on full profs? Does dept not vote? This seems to take power AWAY from faculty since fewer faculty vote for this. </div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt;">While having the mid-term review in the 4th year can help tenure-track faculty to establish themselves and show progress, it could also pose challenges, as there might not be enough time after the 4th year to address the recommendations
from the T&P committee. Since this change is dictated by the system policy, we may not have much flexibility. Our recommendation would be to have T&P committee recommendations to be included in the annual APR in addition to DH comments. This means there will
be a soft/quick review by T&P committee every year and an elaborate review on the 4th year. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">
<span style="font-size: 11pt;">Generally, we need further clarification regarding the external reviewers, their roles, how they will be picked (I think this is in line with other departments’ feedback).<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">
<span style="font-size: 11pt;">Contrary to the statement in 2.5, as per 12.99.99.R0.08, DH may not be at will appointment. That should be changed to “and are at will or shared governance appointment”. While the appointment and retention decisions for Department
Head is vested in the Academic Dean with approval from the Provost and Vice President for Academic Affairs, and should consider the view of other stakeholders, the principle of shared governance in the academy requires that the faculty of the departments in
their college play an essential role in the selection of its college department heads<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">
<span style="font-size: 11pt;">Under 3.5, it is stated the review will be performed by DH in years one, two, three and five. We think that Dept head alone doing this will be problematic, especially when there is DH change or disagreement among stake holders
(DH, T&P committee, and the candidate). <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">
<span style="font-size: 11pt;">Regarding 3.6, there might be technical issues regarding privacy and user errors. The measures to control these issues need to be stated more clearly.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">
<span style="font-size: 11pt;">Regarding 6.1.3, “in the rarest circumstances” clause creates ambiguity and unclarity.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">
<span style="font-size: 11pt;">Regarding 6.1.8, Committee members on both the department and college tenure and promotion committees should cast their vote at the college level, recuse at the department committee level but participate at the Department T&P
Committee to avoid giving double power to one person.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<b>Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, November 5, 2024 at 10:46 AM<br>
<b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Yasemin Atinc <<a href="mailto:Yasemin.Atinc@tamuc.edu">Yasemin.Atinc@tamuc.edu</a>>, Stephen Starnes <<a href="mailto:Stephen.Starnes@tamuc.edu">Stephen.Starnes@tamuc.edu</a>>, Stephen Furlich <<a href="mailto:Stephen.Furlich@tamuc.edu">Stephen.Furlich@tamuc.edu</a>>,
Brad Klypchak <<a href="mailto:Brad.Klypchak@tamuc.edu">Brad.Klypchak@tamuc.edu</a>>, Brandon Randolph-Seng <<a href="mailto:Brandon.Randolph-Seng@tamuc.edu">Brandon.Randolph-Seng@tamuc.edu</a>>, Carlos Bertulani <<a href="mailto:Carlos.Bertulani@tamuc.edu">Carlos.Bertulani@tamuc.edu</a>>,
Carrie Klypchak <<a href="mailto:Carrie.Klypchak@tamuc.edu">Carrie.Klypchak@tamuc.edu</a>>, Dongmei Cheng <<a href="mailto:Dongmei.Cheng@tamuc.edu">Dongmei.Cheng@tamuc.edu</a>>, Hongmei Jia <<a href="mailto:Hongmei.Jia@tamuc.edu">Hongmei.Jia@tamuc.edu</a>>,
Hunkar Gizem Yesilyurt <<a href="mailto:HunkarGizem.Yesilyurt@tamuc.edu">HunkarGizem.Yesilyurt@tamuc.edu</a>>, Jason Davis <<a href="mailto:Jason.Davis@tamuc.edu">Jason.Davis@tamuc.edu</a>>, Jeanette Vaughan <<a href="mailto:Jeanette.Vaughan@tamuc.edu">Jeanette.Vaughan@tamuc.edu</a>>,
Jimmy Womack <<a href="mailto:James.Womack@tamuc.edu">James.Womack@tamuc.edu</a>>, Josephine Durkin <<a href="mailto:Josephine.Durkin@tamuc.edu">Josephine.Durkin@tamuc.edu</a>>, Julee Walker DMA <<a href="mailto:Julee.Walker@tamuc.edu">Julee.Walker@tamuc.edu</a>>,
Julia Ballenger <<a href="mailto:Julia.Ballenger@tamuc.edu">Julia.Ballenger@tamuc.edu</a>>, Kelly Featherston <<a href="mailto:Kelly.Featherston@tamuc.edu">Kelly.Featherston@tamuc.edu</a>>, Leslie Ekpe <<a href="mailto:Leslie.Ekpe@tamuc.edu">Leslie.Ekpe@tamuc.edu</a>>,
Maggie Salem <<a href="mailto:Maggie.Salem@tamuc.edu">Maggie.Salem@tamuc.edu</a>>, MaryJo Dondlinger <<a href="mailto:MaryJo.Dondlinger@tamuc.edu">MaryJo.Dondlinger@tamuc.edu</a>>, Mei Jiang <<a href="mailto:Mei.Jiang@tamuc.edu">Mei.Jiang@tamuc.edu</a>>, Omar
Elariss <<a href="mailto:Omar.El.Ariss@tamuc.edu">Omar.El.Ariss@tamuc.edu</a>>, Ozum Yesiltas PhD <<a href="mailto:Ozum.Yesiltas@tamuc.edu">Ozum.Yesiltas@tamuc.edu</a>>, Rusty Fox <<a href="mailto:Rusty.Fox@tamuc.edu">Rusty.Fox@tamuc.edu</a>>, Tami Morton
<<a href="mailto:Tami.Morton@tamuc.edu">Tami.Morton@tamuc.edu</a>>, William Kuracina <<a href="mailto:William.Kuracina@tamuc.edu">William.Kuracina@tamuc.edu</a>>, Adam Northam <<a href="mailto:Adam.Northam@tamuc.edu">Adam.Northam@tamuc.edu</a>>, Zachary Palmer
<<a href="mailto:Zachary.Palmer@tamuc.edu">Zachary.Palmer@tamuc.edu</a>>, Avril Knox <<a href="mailto:Avril.Knox@tamuc.edu">Avril.Knox@tamuc.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>RE: Revised T&P Policy<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> Good morning to everyone, thank you President Yasemin for shearing the revised T&P policies. Thanks to
Dr. Maggie and Dr. Carlos for sharing opinions.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> I am still waiting Math Department faculty for their notes but there is the policy 6.1.3 we have discusses
sometimes ago. Apropos we discussed this policy in the Faculty Senate as well.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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well, the Faculty Senate reached a decision that the above is unrealistic and puts huge burden on the Dept. Heads and may create problems to the whole process. It holds because there is no outcome if the outer reviewer does not submit the review on time?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Mongolian Baiti";"> Hence more appropriate is if the candidate chose her/his outer reviewer OR we scrap this outer reviewer requirement. I think
this is what we decided, and if I am wrong, please someone corrects me.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Mongolian Baiti";"> Best regards and wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Atinc <<a href="mailto:Yasemin.Atinc@tamuc.edu">Yasemin.Atinc@tamuc.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, November 03, 2024 12:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Stephen Starnes <<a href="mailto:Stephen.Starnes@tamuc.edu">Stephen.Starnes@tamuc.edu</a>>; Stephen Furlich <<a href="mailto:Stephen.Furlich@tamuc.edu">Stephen.Furlich@tamuc.edu</a>>; Brad Klypchak <<a href="mailto:Brad.Klypchak@tamuc.edu">Brad.Klypchak@tamuc.edu</a>>;
Brandon Randolph-Seng <<a href="mailto:Brandon.Randolph-Seng@tamuc.edu">Brandon.Randolph-Seng@tamuc.edu</a>>; Carlos Bertulani <<a href="mailto:Carlos.Bertulani@tamuc.edu">Carlos.Bertulani@tamuc.edu</a>>; Carrie Klypchak <<a href="mailto:Carrie.Klypchak@tamuc.edu">Carrie.Klypchak@tamuc.edu</a>>;
Dongmei Cheng <<a href="mailto:Dongmei.Cheng@tamuc.edu">Dongmei.Cheng@tamuc.edu</a>>; Hongmei Jia <<a href="mailto:Hongmei.Jia@tamuc.edu">Hongmei.Jia@tamuc.edu</a>>; Hunkar Gizem Yesilyurt <<a href="mailto:HunkarGizem.Yesilyurt@tamuc.edu">HunkarGizem.Yesilyurt@tamuc.edu</a>>;
Jason Davis <<a href="mailto:Jason.Davis@tamuc.edu">Jason.Davis@tamuc.edu</a>>; Jeanette Vaughan <<a href="mailto:Jeanette.Vaughan@tamuc.edu">Jeanette.Vaughan@tamuc.edu</a>>; Jimmy Womack <<a href="mailto:James.Womack@tamuc.edu">James.Womack@tamuc.edu</a>>;
Josephine Durkin <<a href="mailto:Josephine.Durkin@tamuc.edu">Josephine.Durkin@tamuc.edu</a>>; Julee Walker DMA <<a href="mailto:Julee.Walker@tamuc.edu">Julee.Walker@tamuc.edu</a>>; Julia Ballenger <<a href="mailto:Julia.Ballenger@tamuc.edu">Julia.Ballenger@tamuc.edu</a>>;
Kelly Featherston <<a href="mailto:Kelly.Featherston@tamuc.edu">Kelly.Featherston@tamuc.edu</a>>; Leslie Ekpe <<a href="mailto:Leslie.Ekpe@tamuc.edu">Leslie.Ekpe@tamuc.edu</a>>; Maggie Salem <<a href="mailto:Maggie.Salem@tamuc.edu">Maggie.Salem@tamuc.edu</a>>;
MaryJo Dondlinger <<a href="mailto:MaryJo.Dondlinger@tamuc.edu">MaryJo.Dondlinger@tamuc.edu</a>>; Mei Jiang <<a href="mailto:Mei.Jiang@tamuc.edu">Mei.Jiang@tamuc.edu</a>>; Nikolay Sirakov <<a href="mailto:Nikolay.Sirakov@tamuc.edu">Nikolay.Sirakov@tamuc.edu</a>>;
Omar Elariss <<a href="mailto:Omar.El.Ariss@tamuc.edu">Omar.El.Ariss@tamuc.edu</a>>; Ozum Yesiltas PhD <<a href="mailto:Ozum.Yesiltas@tamuc.edu">Ozum.Yesiltas@tamuc.edu</a>>; Rusty Fox <<a href="mailto:Rusty.Fox@tamuc.edu">Rusty.Fox@tamuc.edu</a>>; Tami Morton
<<a href="mailto:Tami.Morton@tamuc.edu">Tami.Morton@tamuc.edu</a>>; William Kuracina <<a href="mailto:William.Kuracina@tamuc.edu">William.Kuracina@tamuc.edu</a>>; Adam Northam <<a href="mailto:Adam.Northam@tamuc.edu">Adam.Northam@tamuc.edu</a>>; Zachary Palmer
<<a href="mailto:Zachary.Palmer@tamuc.edu">Zachary.Palmer@tamuc.edu</a>>; Avril Knox <<a href="mailto:Avril.Knox@tamuc.edu">Avril.Knox@tamuc.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Revised T&P Policy<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Please share the attached T&P policy with your respective departments and ask faculty to provide feedback by Nov 17, 2024. <o:p></o:p></div>
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