[phas-faculty_staff_others] Concur and Foreign Travel

Carlos Bertulani Carlos.Bertulani at tamuc.edu
Fri Mar 8 11:43:26 CST 2019


Matt,

I am surprised by your question because you are well known and certainly receive invitations for meetings abroad. 

Sometimes I get invitations to go to Europe for a meeting (committees, conferences, etc.) within less than 30 days.  

Since our administration is slow communicating (Jeremy, Amanda, Rhonda, Sharon, Melissa, Dean's office, and others we have to go through in the process), it does not matter what you do or write down. In the end the lower administration will take time to respond and we have to cancel plans for trips. We have been kidnapped by all the bureaucracy.

It does not matter what you decide or do now.

Carlos 

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Wood <Matt.Wood at tamuc.edu>
Date: Friday, March 8, 2019 at 10:50 AM
To: Kurtis  Williams <Kurtis.Williams at tamuc.edu>, Carlos Bertulani <Carlos.Bertulani at tamuc.edu>
Cc: "phas-faculty_staff_others at tamuc.edu" <phas-faculty_staff_others at tamuc.edu>
Subject: Re: [phas-faculty_staff_others] Concur and Foreign Travel

    
    
    
    Taking John out of this as he’s got bigger problems.
    
    
    Carlos, Bao-An, et al.: What do you think is reasonable for a timeline of international travel?   If it was up to you to make the rule that the entire university would follow, what would you choose?  
    
    
    Matt
    
    Matt A. Wood, Ph.D.
    Vice Provost for Research and
    Dean of the Graduate School
    Texas A&M University-Commerce
    Commerce, TX 75429
    O: 903.886.5160     M: 903.269.6682
    
    
    
    On Mar 8, 2019, at 10:20 AM, Kurtis Williams <Kurtis.Williams at tamuc.edu> wrote:
    
    Hi Carlos et al,
    
    
    Already this morning I’ve brought Matt Wood in his role as Vice Provost for Research in on this issue; he, Jeremy, and Sarah Baker are going to discuss this issue together and then get back to us.  I will keep everyone informed as I hear anything.
    
    
    The change to procedure is not yet implemented, so as of right now paper-based foreign travel documentation and existing deadlines are still in force.
    
    
    Cheers,
    Kurtis
    
    Dr. Kurtis A. Williams
    Associate Professor
    Department of Physics & Astronomy
    Texas A&M University-Commerce
    kurtis.williams at tamuc.edu
    (903) 886-5516 
    
    
    On Mar 8, 2019, at 9:51 AM, Carlos Bertulani <Carlos.Bertulani at tamuc.edu> wrote:
    
    Hi
     Jeremy,
    
    Thank
     you for your concern. I appreciate that you propose to talk.
    
    Unfortunately,
     I am extremely busy and I do not have time to talk about this topic because we all know that when you leave the administration, whatever you decide now will be changed again by another incoming administrator. Time is the most precious thing in everyone's life.
    
    Carlos
    
    -----Original
     Message-----
    From:
     Jeremy Gamez <Jeremy.Gamez at tamuc.edu>
    Date:
     Thursday, March 7, 2019 at 11:42 PM
    To:
     Carlos Bertulani <Carlos.Bertulani at tamuc.edu>
    Cc:
     Stephen Starnes <Stephen.Starnes at tamuc.edu>
    Subject:
     Re: FW: [phas-faculty_staff_others] Concur and Foreign Travel
    
       Hello,
     Dr. Bertulani.
    
    
       Thank
     you for your feedback. One additional follow up: how often does your or your colleagues' international travel occur?  
    
    
       If
     you would like to discuss further, I would be more than happy to find a time that works for both of us. -Jer
    
       Jeremy
     G. Gamez | Business Technical Analyst
       Office
     of the Provost & V.P. of Academic Affairs
    
       sent
     by Google Pixel
    
    
    
       On
     Mar 7, 2019 11:10 PM, Carlos Bertulani <Carlos.Bertulani at tamuc.edu>
     wrote:
    
    
    
       FYI.
    
       Carlos 
    
       -----Original
     Message-----
       From:
     <phas-faculty_staff_others-bounces at tamuc.edu>
     on behalf of Carlos Bertulani <Carlos.Bertulani at tamuc.edu>
       Date:
     Thursday, March 7, 2019 at 11:05 PM
       To:
     Bao-An Li <Bao-An.Li at tamuc.edu>,
     Kurtis  Williams <Kurtis.Williams at tamuc.edu>,
     "phas-faculty_staff_others at tamuc.edu"
     <phas-faculty_staff_others at tamuc.edu>
       Cc:
     John Humphreys <John.Humphreys at tamuc.edu>,
     Brent Donham <Brent.Donham at tamuc.edu>
       Subject:
     Re: [phas-faculty_staff_others] Concur and Foreign Travel
    
           The
     president at the time (Keck) sent me an email with copy to the Dean and the Provost about the new 15 days policy after months of deliberations (please read the two emails attached below and pay attention to the dates).
    
    
           I
     am not sure if I understand what is going on now.
    
           Carlos 
    
    
           -----Original
     Message-----
           From:
     <employees-bounces at tamuc.edu>
     on behalf of Faculty/Staff
           Reply-To:
     "reply_to_employees_list at tamu-commerce.edu"
           Date:
     Monday, October 16, 2017 at 11:43 AM
           To:
     "'employees at tamuc.edu'"
           Subject:
     [Faculty & Staff] Foreign Travel Changes
    
           If
     you will be traveling internationally, you are required to submit a
           foreign
     travel request. This request must be received by the Office of the President prior to your travel. The required documents can be found here:
    
       http://www.tamuc.edu/facultyStaffServices/travelOffice/foreignTravel.as<http://www.tamuc.edu/facultyStaffServices/travelOffice/foreignTravel.as>
           px
           <http://www.tamuc.edu/facultyStaffServices/travelOffice/foreignTravel.a
           spx>
           After
     receiving email confirmation (and an electronic copy of your
           fully
     executed Request for Foreign Travel form and all other documentation), you have been approved and may begin to book  international travel.  Please note that any airfare booked before a foreign travel request has been approved will not be ticketed,
        possibly
     resulting in rate changes and the loss of a held seat.
           President
     Keck has approved some changes to this process, which have been listed below:
           ·
            
           Foreign
     travel requests (with all documentation completed) must be
           received
     by the Office of the President at least
           15
     days prior to travel. If traveling to a high risk country, requests
           (with
     all documentation completed) must be received by the Office of
           the
     President at least
           30
     days prior to travel. The Department of Campus Operations & Safety (Derek Preas) has the most up-to-date information on high risk countries. Check with your department for any internal deadlines. Requests not submitted by this deadline may be rejected.
    
           ·
            
           The
     Foreign Travel Checklist must be included in all foreign travel requests.
           ·
            
           Required
     trainings must have been completed less than one year prior to
           the
     trip return date.
           ·
            
           The
     same rules/documents apply to Canada and Mexico.
           ·
            
           Foreign
     travel must be booked through the Concur eTravel system or
           directly
     with a Corporate Travel Planner (CTP) agent, who can also assist with large group travel. Any travel  booked through other means will not be reimbursed.
           o
           If
     booking through Concur is not possible (for example, your conference
           hotel
     is not found in Concur), please document this in your Concur authorization request and include a brief explanation.
           o
           All
     airfare should be booked through Concur.
    
           If
     you will be traveling internationally or on a regular basis, it is recommended that you attend a Concur training session. You can register for a session through Training & Development:
           http://appsprod.tamuc.edu/td/coursecalendar.aspx
           To
     contact a CTP agent to assist you in booking travel, please call
           877-727-5188.
     Please note that there is a nominal fee to your department for using this service.
           Any
     requests submitted by the traveler to their department head on Tuesday, October 17, 2017 or after will operate under the rules above.
           Amanda
     C. Brown
           │
           Assistant
     to the Chief of Staff
           Office
     of the President
           Amanda.Brown at tamuc.edu
           P.O.
     Box 3011 │ Commerce, TX 75429
           McDowell
     Administration Building (BA) 295 Phone 903.886.5009 │ Fax
           903.886.5010 www.tamuc.edu <http://www.tamuc.edu/> <http://www.tamuc.edu <http://www.tamuc.edu/>>
     <http://www.tamuc.edu/>
           Texas
     A&M University-Commerce
    
    
           -----Original
     Message-----
           From:
     Ray Keck <Ray.Keck at tamuc.edu>
           Date:
     Friday, June 2, 2017 at 11:01 AM
           To:
     Carlos Bertulani <Carlos.Bertulani at tamuc.edu>
           Cc:
     John Humphreys <John.Humphreys at tamuc.edu>
           Subject:
     RE: Request 
    
               Dear
     Carlos,
    
               Yesterday's
     discussion suffered from a lot of misinformation.  After the meeting, we looked into where the System and their rules are at present.  As it happens, we no longer need to send the Chancellor these documents, so the 45-day window is not necessary.  
        Our
     forms were devised and printed some time ago, when expectations and requirements were quite different.  
    
    
               We
     do need some advance planning, however, to ensure that trainings are finished and all documentation is in place.  Your dean will soon get a new set of guidelines that will greatly simplify these matters. 
    
    
               I
     apologize for this situation which, had we understood it, could have been altered some time ago.   Ray
    
               Ray
     M. Keck III, PhD
               President
               Texas
     A&M University-Commerce
               P.O.
     Box 3011
               Commerce,
     TX 75429
    
               903-886-5011
               Ray.keck at tamuc.edu
    
    
           -----Original
     Message-----
           From:
     <phas-faculty_staff_others-bounces at tamuc.edu> on behalf of Bao-An Li <Bao-An.Li at tamuc.edu>
           Date:
     Thursday, March 7, 2019 at 3:24 PM
           To:
     Kurtis  Williams <Kurtis.Williams at tamuc.edu>, "phas-faculty_staff_others at tamuc.edu" <phas-faculty_staff_others at tamuc.edu>
           Cc:
     Brent Donham <Brent.Donham at tamuc.edu>
           Subject:
     Re: [phas-faculty_staff_others] Concur and Foreign Travel
    
               It
     took us tons of emails even involving the former president to get the administration to simplify/shorten the approval process over the last few years. It seems that we were just
                wasting
     time....
               ________________________________________
               From:
    phas-faculty_staff_others-bounces at tamuc.edu [phas-faculty_staff_others-bounces at tamuc.edu] on behalf of Kurtis
     Williams [Kurtis.Williams at tamuc.edu]
               Sent:
     Thursday, March 07, 2019 3:15 PM
               To:
    phas-faculty_staff_others at tamuc.edu
               Subject:
     [phas-faculty_staff_others] Concur and Foreign Travel
    
    
               Y’all
     aren’t going to like the response I received to the question about 30-day vs 15-day foreign travel approval through Concur, so I‘m just forwarding the message to you.  We can discuss this and how to proceed at the faculty meeting on Monday.
    
    
               BTW,
     when Stephen says “they do not fully understand” he is referring to the Technology folks, not the faculty.  I misread that the first few times.
    
    
               Cheers,
               Kurtis
    
               Dr.
     Kurtis A. Williams
               Associate
     Professor
               Department
     of Physics & Astronomy
               Texas
     A&M University-Commerce
               kurtis.williams at tamuc.edu
               (903)
     886-5516 
    
    
               Begin
     forwarded message:
    
               From:
     Stephen Starnes
    
               Hi
     Kurtis,
    
               I
     spoke with Jeremy Gamez yesterday regarding the travel issue. I have copied Jeremy on this e-mail. He indicated that he is more than happy to come to the Physics department to talk with the faculty about the issue - particularly if it is an issue
        that
     mainly
                impacts
     just a few faculty.
    
               It
     is my understanding that they do not fully understand how the 15 day policy came about and may question why 15 day approval is needed. It is also my understanding that for travel to safe areas, the 30 day approval before travel will be the standard
        policy
                (note:
     this is not 30 day submission of a request before travel but instead 30-day approval before the travel so in reality the travel request would have to be made about 6 weeks in advance of travel).
    
    
               Jeremy
     did note that with the travel request routing using Concur, a faculty member will always know at which stage in the approval process the travel request is, so the faculty member would be able to contact the individual whose desk the request is
        at
     in
                order
     to try and expedite the process.
    
               I
     will let Jeremy correct any mistakes that I made. Please do have the Physics department meet with Jeremy if there are concerns.
    
               Stephen
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
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