[COSEAfaculty] Call for motions on CoSEA TenureandPromotionCommittee (Tenured/Tenure-Track faculty only)
Derald Harp
Derald.Harp at tamuc.edu
Tue Sep 18 18:38:05 CDT 2012
I agree that role on the departmental committee should not have any bearing on suitability to serve on the college committee. However, he/ she must be, at minimum, a tenured Associate Professor. In the procedure, only full-time, tenured faculty holding the rank of Associate Professor or above may serve. A non-tenured member is not allowed to serve.
A non-voting member is included only when a person from the department has submitted his/her application and no member from that department is on the committee. This is not a permanent appointment. In my reading of the procedure, it is for the review of that candidate only.
This remains the problem with the 7 member committee.
Thanks,
Derald
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On Sep 18, 2012, at 4:59 PM, "Ben Jang" <Ben.Jang at tamuc.edu> wrote:
> As far as I can tell there is no rule not allowing the Departmental tenure review committee member or chair to serve on the college committee? If so, Chemistry can send one member to serve on the college committee this year. If, in the future, any department cannot send one tenured faculty to serve on the college committee, the department can still send one non-voting member according to the policy. I vote for the 7-member committee and the alternate to be the 1st year. Ben
>
> From: coseafaculty-bounces at tamuc.edu [mailto:coseafaculty-bounces at tamuc.edu] On Behalf Of Nikolay Sirakov
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 10:16 PM
> To: Grady P Blount; coseafaculty at tamu-commerce.edu
> Subject: Re: [COSEAfaculty] Call for motions on CoSEA Tenure andPromotionCommittee (Tenured/Tenure-Track faculty only)
>
> The tables and the summary below are
> reasonable and provide the algorithms needed.
> The idea for the alternates to be voted at large is fair.
> For both cases 5 or 7 members, the scheme that
> keeps members from the previous term is useful to
> ensure a smooth work.
> >From my view point, it will be fair (in case of 5 or 7 members)
> to restrict every new voting on nominees from the Departments
> without representatives.
> To check how each of the algorithms, described below,
> will work, input information will be helpful about:
> what term each of the present members is serving?
> Wishes for good evening
> Nikolay
> From: coseafaculty-bounces at tamuc.edu on behalf of Grady P Blount
> Sent: Mon 9/17/2012 1:32 PM
> To: coseafaculty at tamu-commerce.edu
> Subject: [COSEAfaculty] Call for motions on CoSEA Tenure and PromotionCommittee (Tenured/Tenure-Track faculty only)
>
> Greetings:
>
> I am writing to request motions on creating the permanent form of the CoSEA T&P Committee. Any motion sent to the group will have to have a second from the group. As you recall, the discussion has centered around five-member vs seven-members. I’m sure our mathematically-inclined colleagues may have a different take on the analysis below. Motions are not restricted to these options.
>
> Here is our status as of the current 2012-2013 academic year (FY13), sorted by department:
>
> AGRI – Williams – 3rd year
> CSCI – Saffer – 3rd year
> PHYS – Rogers – 3rd year
> MATH – Sirakov – 2nd year
> ALTERNATE: BESC – Kopachena – 2nd year
>
>
> In the tables below, 1, 2, and 3 refer to the term of each position. So 1 = 1st year, 2nd year, etc.
>
> If we go with a five member committee:
> NAME FY13 FY14 FY15 FY16 FY17
> Saffer (CSCI) 3 1 2 3 1
> Williams (ARGI) 3 1 2 3 1
> Rogers (PHYS) 3 1 2 3 1
> Sirakov (MATH) 2 3 1 2 3
> New Member* 1 2 3 1 2
> The questions here would be:
> (a) Do we elect a new member at large or from an unrepresented department? Or,
> (b) Do we vote to move our existing alternate (Kopachena)* into the open slot as 1 1st or 2nd year member?
> (c) Would you like to restrict the home departments of the five members? (e.g. “No more than one per department, two per department, etc.)?
> (d) Or do you prefer five “at-large” members without regard to home department?
>
> If we go with a seven member committee w/one from each department:
> NAME FY13 FY14 FY15 FY16 FY17
> Saffer (CSCI) 3 1 2 3 1
> Williams (ARGI) 3 1 2 3 1
> Rogers (PHYS) 3 1 2 3 1
> Sirakov (MATH) 2 3 1 2 3
> New Member (BESC) 1 2 3 1 2
> New Member (CHEM) 1 2 3 1 2
> New Member (ENGR) 1 2 3 1 2
> If we go with this department-based representation, we still have question (b) from above.
>
>
> = = = = = SUMMARY = = = = =
>
> The five year option has us rotating 3 of the 5 members every 3 years leaving only two experienced members at the start of every 3rd year + one person rotations during each of the other two years leaving 4 experienced members.
>
> The seven year option has us rotating 3 of 7 members every 3 years leaving four experienced members each time + MATH fills the ad-hoc term period created by having 7 members with 3 year terms.
>
> Both will have to have two alternates (bee TAMUC Procedure below). One alternate (Kopachena) already exists and is in year 2 of that alternate status. Given the topology of this situation I am assuming the alternates would have to be “at large”.
>
> = = = = = CLOSE SUMMARY = = = = =
>
> In the interest of moving this along, I will entertain motions to the group until 5 PM on Wednesday. We’ll have a college-wide vote of the Tenured/Tenure-Track faculty on Thursday.
>
> -Grady
>
> ===============================================
> Grady Price Blount (근덕), Ph.D., Professor of Physics and Dean
> College of Science, Engineering & Agriculture (CoSEA)
> Texas A&M University-Commerce
> Commerce, Texas 75429-3011
> Telephones: 903-886-5781 (office) 325-716-0450 (cell)
> ===============================================
> Talent hits a target no one else can hit.
> Genius hits a target no one else can see.
> -Schopenhauer
>
>
>
>
> Recall for reference the TAMUC Procedure which must be observed:
>
> 1) Each college will have a Tenure and Promotion Advisory Committee.
> 2) Members will be elected by a vote of tenured and tenure-track faculty in
> each college for a three year staggered term.
> 3) Only full-time tenured faculty, holding the rank of associate professor or above, are eligible to serve.
> 4) Not eligible are department heads, assistant deans, and deans.
> 5) Each college may have up to but no more than seven members.
> 6) Membership to the Tenure and Promotion Advisory Committee will be determined by policy set by each College. (?? whatever this means)
> 7) In addition, each college will elect two alternates.
> 8) No faculty member who is being considered for promotion in rank shall, at that time,
> be eligible to serve on the College Promotion and Tenure Advisory Committee.
> 9) Members will be elected at-large from their respective colleges, except that
> no department shall have more than one representative on the committee at
> any time.
> 10) If a candidate is being considered for tenure and/or promotion
> whose department has no representative on the committee, the department
> head, in consultation with the candidate, will appoint a nonvoting
> representative to the committee from the candidate’s department. If no one
> in the department meets the criteria for appointment, the selection will be
> made from qualified faculty members within the college.
> 11) A member of the College Tenure and Promotion Advisory Committee is
> eligible to serve no more than two consecutive three-year terms.
>
> If I might make a suggestion for a transition period:
> PLAN A
> Year 2011: Already past with 4 members: A(year1) B(year1) C(year1) D(year1)
>
> Year 2012: Eelect 2 more member and 2 alternates:
> 6 members: A(year2) B(year2) C(year2) D(year2) E(year1) F(year1)
>
> Year 2013: Eelect 1 more member and alternates as needed:
> 7 members: A(year3) B(year3) C(year3) D(year3) E(year2) F(year2) G(year1)
>
> Year 2014: Eelect 2 more members and go down to 5 members:
> 5 members: E(year3) F(year3) G(year2) H(year1) I(year1)
>
> Year 2015: Eelect 2 more member and alternates as needed:
> 5 members: G(year3) H(year2) I(year2) J(year1) K(year1)
>
> Stay at 5 members and loose no more than 2 experienced (3 year) members each year.
>
>
> PLAN B
>
> Year 2011: Already past with 4 members: A(year1) B(year1) C(year1) D(year1)
>
> Year 2012: Elect 1 more member and 2 alternates: Limit a current member to 2 years only.
> 5 members: A(year2) B(year2) C(year2) D(year2) E(year1)
>
> Year 2013: Elect 1 more member and alternates as needed: Extend A to 4 years.
> 5 members: B(year3) C(year3) D(year3) E(year2) F(year1)
>
> Year 2014: Elect 2 more members and alternates as needed:
> 5 members: A(year4) E(year3) F(year2) G(year1) H(year1)
>
> Year 2015: Elect 2 more members and alternates as needed:
> 5 members: F(year3) G(year2) H(year2) I(year1) J(year1)
>
> Year 2016: Elect 1 more members and alternates as needed:
> 5 members: G(year3) H(year3) I(year2) J(year2) K(year1)
>
> This will get you back to a 3 year membership electing 1 or 2 new members each year and at least 2 members will have 3 years of experience.
>
>
>
> From: Grady P Blount
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 1:23 AM
> To: Sam Saffer
> Subject: RE: Accademic Affairs Tenure and Promotion Committee
>
> Thanks mucho Sam.
> The problem I am detecting is that we have only been a college for 1 year!
>
> ========================================
> Grady Price Blount, Ph.D., Professor of Physics and Dean,
> College of Science, Engineering & Agriculture (CoSEA)
> Texas A&M University-Commerce
> Commerce, Texas 75429-3011
> Telephones: 903-886-5781 (office) 325-716-0450 (cell)
> ========================================
> Talent hits a target no one else can hit.
> Genius hits a target no one else can see.
> -Schopenhauer
>
> From: Sam Saffer
> Sent: Thu 9/6/2012 8:37 PM
> To: Grady P Blount
> Subject: RE: Accademic Affairs Tenure and Promotion Committee
>
> The term is for 3 years, so anyone who has been there for 3 years will be rotating off. Let me check my old emails and try to determine the time line.
> Sam
>
> From: Grady P Blount
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:08 AM
> To: Sam Saffer
> Subject: FW: Accademic Affairs Tenure and Promotion Committee
>
> Hi Sam:
> Do you recall the procedures on terms and elections for the P&T committee? Do we have anyone rotating off who needs to be replaced?
> Thanks a bunch, Grady
>
> ===============================================
> Grady Price Blount (근덕), Ph.D., Professor of Physics and Dean
> College of Science, Engineering & Agriculture (CoSEA)
> Texas A&M University-Commerce
> Commerce, Texas 75429-3011
> Telephones: 903-886-5781 (office) 325-716-0450 (cell)
> ===============================================
> Talent hits a target no one else can hit.
> Genius hits a target no one else can see.
> -Schopenhauer
>
> From: Rhonda Ferguson
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 1:51 PM
> To: Brent Mangus; Dale Funderburk; Salvatore Attardo; Grady P Blount
> Cc: Larissa ter Veer; Belinda Benson; Lisa Rabe
> Subject: Accademic Affairs Tenure and Promotion Committee
>
> Have the following committees been elected – if so, please forward me the new members.
> Academic Affairs Tenure & Promotion (2011-2012)
> College of Business: Chuck Arize, John Humphreys, Steve Shwiff
> College of Education & Human Services: Amir Abbassi, Wade Fish, Barbara Hammack, Linda Openshaw, Tara Tietjen-Smith.
> College of Humananities, Social Sciences & Arts: John Hanners, Hunter Hayes, Michael Miller, Yvonne Villanueva-Russell, Brian Zator. Alternate: William Thompson
> College of Science, Engineering & Agriculture: Sam Saffer, Bob Williams, Charles Rogers, Nikolay Sirakov
> Thank you.
>
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