ALP definitely should have its own workshop. It is an important innovation that deserves its own time slot and audience, and that fully complements the work of CBW.<br><br>However, a full-day CBW workshop would have a different goal than the separate halves of an ALP or a CBW workshop. CBW helps to create new scholarship in the field -- and to foster a
discussion on new scholarship for people just beginning and/or overworked and under-resourced in the
field. In other words, CBW's full-day workshop serves teacher/scholars who otherwise would not have access to new scholarship or to the resources for creating new scholarship. <br><br>But I also
believe the $40 full-day workshop price keeps lots of folks away. Prompted by Barbara Gleason, we tried to
initiate a conversation with CCCC about changing the price when
Kathleen and I were chairs, but to no avail. <br>
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SO: I would support a full day for CBW, but would agree to a 1/2 day if that's the general consensus-- with one caveat. If we decide on a half day for St. Louis in 2012, we need to revisit doing a full-day again for
Vegas in 2013.<br><br>Best,<br><br>Susan<br><br><br>
<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Kelly Ritter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:karitter@uncg.edu">karitter@uncg.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I think this is a great idea, as it would also allow some in-out flow regarding the BW crowd (some will do AM, some PM, for the ALP, some both) and would open up participation for BW folks in other afternoon sessions, like RNF or another workshop, if they were familiar with or not currently interested in ALP. <br>
<br>Kelly<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Shannon Carter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Shannon_Carter@tamu-commerce.edu" target="_blank">Shannon_Carter@tamu-commerce.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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From: Ashley, Hannah [<a href="mailto:HAshley@wcupa.edu" target="_blank">mailto:HAshley@wcupa.edu</a>]<br>
Sent: Sun 4/17/2011 10:22 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:cbw_exec-bounces@tamu-commerce.edu" target="_blank">cbw_exec-bounces@tamu-commerce.edu</a><br>
Subject: FW: Wednesday workshop question<br>
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So, Exec Board--<br>
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<br>
<br>
What do you think about the idea of doing a half-day Wednesday workshop from CBW in the morning, and requesting that it not compete with ALP which could do a workshop in the afternoon? Not that they'd be proposed as part of same workshop, but but explicitly asking they not conflict and acknowleding similar draws?<br>
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Feedback?<br>
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<br>
Hannah<br>
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Hannah Ashley, Ph.D.<br>
Associate Professor of English, Composition & Rhetoric<br>
Director, Writing Zones 12.5 (<<a href="http://www.writingzones/" target="_blank">http://www.writingzones/</a>><a href="http://www.writingzones.net" target="_blank">www.writingzones.net</a><<a href="http://www.writingzones.net/" target="_blank">http://www.writingzones.net/</a>>)<br>
543 Main Hall, West Chester University<br>
West Chester, PA 19383<br>
<a href="tel:610-436-2371" value="+16104362371" target="_blank">610-436-2371</a><br>
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"For years I pulled my own existence out of emptiness. Then one swoop, one swing of the arm, that work is over." Rumi<br>
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From: Adams, Peter D. [<a href="mailto:padams2@ccbcmd.edu" target="_blank">padams2@ccbcmd.edu</a>]<br>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:01 PM<br>
To: Ashley, Hannah<br>
Subject: RE: Workshops on BW at CCCC<br>
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If that's okay with you two, it would be great for us. I do think it would be good to run it past the EB.<br>
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Peter<br>
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Peter Adams | Director of Accelerated Learning Program<br>
Department of English<br>
Essex Campus<br>
Community College of Baltimore County<br>
7201 Rossville Blvd<br>
Baltimore, MD 21237<br>
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From: Ashley, Hannah [<a href="mailto:HAshley@wcupa.edu" target="_blank">mailto:HAshley@wcupa.edu</a>]<br>
Sent: Fri 4/15/2011 11:54 AM<br>
To: Adams, Peter D.; J. Elizabeth Clark<br>
Subject: RE: Workshops on BW at CCCC<br>
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Yes, perhaps we should propose a half day each, if folks think a good idea. Send to EB?<br>
<br>
Hannah<br>
<br>
Hannah Ashley, Ph.D.<br>
Director, Writing Zones 12.5 (<a href="http://www.writingzones.net" target="_blank">www.writingzones.net</a>)<br>
Service Learning Faculty Associate, WCU<br>
Associate Professor of Composition and Rhetoric<br>
Main Hall 543<br>
Department of English, West Chester University<br>
Spring 2001 Office Hours: M, 2-4, W 2-3, F 11-12<br>
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I was part of a generation of kids who saw something special about what it means to be human--something bloody and dramatic and scandalous that happened right here in America--and hip-hop was our way of reporting that story, telling it to ourselves and to the world...the story of the hustler was the story hip-hop was born to tell...hustling is the ultimate metaphor for the basic human struggles: the struggle to survive and resist...to win and make sense of it all. --from Jay-Z, Decoded (2010)<br>
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From: Adams, Peter D. [<a href="mailto:padams2@ccbcmd.edu" target="_blank">mailto:padams2@ccbcmd.edu</a>]<br>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:05 AM<br>
To: Ashley, Hannah; J. Elizabeth Clark<br>
Subject: RE: Workshops on BW at CCCC<br>
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<br>
Liz makes an interesting suggestion. If we each did a half day workshop, we would be offering to basic writing workshops without competing for audience. A different way to compromise would be for us simply to postpone our idea a year, which we'd certainly be willing to do. Or, we could take the risk of offering both and letting those proverbial "chips" fall.<br>
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Would you like to see what the EB says about the question?<br>
<br>
Peter<br>
<br>
Peter Adams | Director of Accelerated Learning Program<br>
Department of English<br>
Essex Campus<br>
Community College of Baltimore County<br>
7201 Rossville Blvd<br>
Baltimore, MD 21237<br>
443*710*1852 | <a href="mailto:padams2@ccbcmd.edu" target="_blank">padams2@ccbcmd.edu</a><br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Ashley, Hannah [<a href="mailto:HAshley@wcupa.edu" target="_blank">mailto:HAshley@wcupa.edu</a>]<br>
Sent: Fri 4/15/2011 9:00 AM<br>
To: J. Elizabeth Clark; Adams, Peter D.<br>
Subject: RE: Workshops on BW at CCCC<br>
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I agree, Peter, that if you feel like there is enough energy to do a workshop just devoted to ALP--do it and let the chips fall where they may.<br>
<br>
Hannah<br>
<br>
Hannah Ashley, Ph.D.<br>
Associate Professor of English, Composition & Rhetoric<br>
Director, Writing Zones 12.5 (<a href="http://www.writingzones.net" target="_blank">www.writingzones.net</a>)<br>
543 Main Hall, West Chester University<br>
West Chester, PA 19383<br>
<a href="tel:610-436-2371" value="+16104362371" target="_blank">610-436-2371</a><br>
<br>
"For years I pulled my own existence out of emptiness. Then one swoop, one swing of the arm, that work is over." Rumi<br>
________________________________________<br>
From: J. Elizabeth Clark [<a href="mailto:lclark@lagcc.cuny.edu" target="_blank">lclark@lagcc.cuny.edu</a>]<br>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:24 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:padams2@ccbcmd.edu" target="_blank">padams2@ccbcmd.edu</a>; Ashley, Hannah<br>
Subject: Re: Workshops on BW at CCCC<br>
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Hi Peter,<br>
<br>
<br>
Hope you're well. I think it's definitely important for you to have an<br>
audience for ALP at CCCC. Is there someway we might join forces? For<br>
example, if you did an ALP workshop from 9-12 and then joined us from<br>
1-4? Or, would that make your day too short? Just brainstorming here.<br>
<br>
<br>
Liz<br>
<br>
J. Elizabeth Clark, Ph.D.<br>
Professor of English<br>
LaGuardia Community College--CUNY<br>
e-mail: <a href="mailto:lclark@lagcc.cuny.edu" target="_blank">lclark@lagcc.cuny.edu</a><br>
Phone: <a href="tel:718.482.5665" value="+17184825665" target="_blank">718.482.5665</a><br>
<a href="http://www.jelizabethclark.com" target="_blank">www.jelizabethclark.com</a><br>
>>> "Adams, Peter D." 04/15/11 12:25 AM >>><br>
Hannah and Liz,<br>
<br>
As you know, at CCBC we have developed an accelerated approach to basic<br>
writing we call ALP, which has met with considerable success in<br>
improving students' success rates. More than twenty schools across the<br>
nation are now piloting some sections of ALP and many more are<br>
interested.<br>
<br>
My colleagues and I have been thinking about proposing a pre-conference<br>
workshop at CCCC on starting up ALP but we are worried about the effect<br>
that might have on the CBW workshop. On the one hand, it might be a<br>
sign of the healthiness of basic writing if there were two workshops,<br>
both on basic writing. In the other hand, we might end up splitting the<br>
audience and ending up with 15 or 20 at each session.<br>
<br>
So I thought I'd ask what you think. Would you view our offering such a<br>
workshop as a sign of the health of the field or as a competition that<br>
is unhealthy for both of us?<br>
<br>
Peter<br>
<br>
Peter Adams | Director of Accelerated Learning Program<br>
Department of English<br>
Essex Campus<br>
Community College of Baltimore County<br>
7201 Rossville Blvd<br>
Baltimore, MD 21237<br>
443*710*1852 | <a href="mailto:padams2@ccbcmd.edu" target="_blank">padams2@ccbcmd.edu</a><br>
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