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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Very wise and good comments, Hannah; thank
you. (And you are witnessing in this thread the reality behind that great
Dorothy Alison quotation in your signoff!)</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>--Bill</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
cbw_exec-bounces@tamu-commerce.edu [mailto:cbw_exec-bounces@tamu-commerce.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ashley, Hannah<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:20
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Susan Bernstein; Shannon
Carter; cbw_exec@tamu-commerce.edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> sanchezdeborah@yahoo.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CBW_Exec] Fwd: draft
of CBW Social Justice Policy</span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Two
thoughts to add (and I'm already committed to a panel too, though I encourage
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>1.&nbsp; Let's be careful of what we
write which ends up in a final print form&nbsp;(e- or otherwise).&nbsp; In
2025, some grad student may&nbsp;write her dissertation on the genesis and
history of this document...&nbsp; Not to discourage writing, just to encourage
taking the long view.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>2.&nbsp; It occurs to me that what I
teach my students applies here.&nbsp; The macro--in all its complexity--must be
considered, and change CAN occur at that level.&nbsp; But a lot of change
happens at the micro level along the way, and to me, that first means what I do
in my classroom.&nbsp; My real, everyday classroom practices.&nbsp; Finding
practices which provide students with the access THEY need along with venues
for the critique that WE need.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=1 color=purple
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:purple'>Hannah Ashley, Ph. D.</span></font><font size=1 color=purple
face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:purple'>&nbsp;<br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=purple face="Book Antiqua"><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";color:purple'>Associate
Professor, Composition and Rhetoric Program, Department of English<br>
Director, Writing Zones 12.5&nbsp;(<a href="http://www.wcupa.edu/writingzones">www.wcupa.edu/writingzones</a>)<br>
551 Main Hall, West Chester University</span></font><font size=1 color=purple
face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:purple'> <br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=purple face="Book Antiqua"><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";color:purple'>610-738-0499, <a
href="mailto:hashley@wcupa.edu" target="_blank">hashley@wcupa.edu</a></span></font></p>

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face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:purple'>&quot;If you're not terrified when you are writing, you're
writing about the wrong things.&quot;&nbsp; --Dorothy Alison--</span></font></p>

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.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> cbw_exec-bounces@tamu-commerce.edu
on behalf of Susan Bernstein<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thu 5/1/2008 10:43 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Shannon Carter;
cbw_exec@tamu-commerce.edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> sanchezdeborah@yahoo.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CBW_Exec] Fwd: draft
of CBW Social Justice Policy</span></font></p>

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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Dear Colleagues,<br>
<br>
With Shannon, I'm in OH WOW!!!!!!!!!!!&nbsp; mode.&nbsp; Thanks to ALL OF YOU<br>
for your insights, comments, questions and concerns.<br>
<br>
I am already committed to a CCCC panel for 2009, as I suspect many of<br>
us are-- so here's what I'd like to suggest instead: What about an<br>
article for BWe?<br>
<br>
This is the structure I have in mind:<br>
<br>
--A brief introduction to the policy-- why the Board decided to draft<br>
a policy, etc.<br>
--The draft of the policy itself.<br>
--Concerns raised by Exec Board members.<br>
--A commentary feature (like the Chronicle of Higher Ed has) that<br>
would give the BWe/CBW community a chance to comment and respond.<br>
<br>
This would address what Alan suggested, about making the policy and<br>
this discussion accessible to the CBW community beyond the Executive<br>
Board.&nbsp; It would also create an interactive feature for BWe-- taking<br>
advantage of web features not available with print text.<br>
<br>
And having proposed this-- I am happy to take on the responsibility of<br>
composing a draft of this article-- and of course submitting the draft<br>
to the list so that all of us have input as to its contents.<br>
<br>
As always, looking forward to hearing your thoughts!<br>
<br>
Warm regards,<br>
<br>
Susan<br>
<br>
On 4/30/08, Shannon Carter &lt;Shannon_Carter@tamu-commerce.edu&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; This email sat unsent since Sugie sent hers and now that Deborah has added<br>
&gt; her always insightful reading to the mix, I think I'll go ahead and press<br>
&gt; send --if only to echo Deborah's suggestion that a CCCC panel might be<br>
&gt; important here.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks!<br>
&gt; ---<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Oh, wow. The more I read about this, the more I think I'd love to see a<br>
&gt; panel on it. Negotiating this social justice policy is a very complex
issue,<br>
&gt; and asking ourselves these very questions (like the ones Peter, Marcia,
and<br>
&gt; Sugie articulate) within the context of the good will and social justice<br>
&gt; mission we want to be a part of our public face (as, I think, Bill's words<br>
&gt; remind me) . . . well, it's bloody hard and, as so many folks have pointed<br>
&gt; out, crucial.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; CCCC panel, anyone? I'm sure most folks are already committed, but I
thought<br>
&gt; I'd through it out there. We are working through our panel ideas around
the<br>
&gt; concept &quot;difficult dialogues,&quot; so it was just on my mind. This
is one of the<br>
&gt; most difficult dialogues with which I have been involved (and that's
saying<br>
&gt; something, because I'm actually writing about difficult dialogues<br>
&gt; experienced in a recent graduate class in response to Crowley's project on<br>
&gt; faith-based rhetoric and the left-right divide . . . the discussion was<br>
&gt; heated, to say the very least).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; :)<br>
&gt; Shannon<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Shannon Carter<br>
&gt; Associate Professor of English<br>
&gt; Texas A&amp;M-Commerce<br>
&gt; shannon_carter@tamu-commerce.edu<br>
&gt; <a href="http://faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/scarter/">http://faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/scarter/</a><br>
&gt; 903-886-5492<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Sugie Goen-Salter [<a href="mailto:sgoen@sfsu.edu">mailto:sgoen@sfsu.edu</a>]<br>
&gt; Sent: Wed 4/30/2008 3:58 PM<br>
&gt; To: Ribble, Marcia (ribbleml)<br>
&gt; Cc: Ashley, Hannah; Shannon Carter; Susan Bernstein;<br>
&gt; cbw_exec@tamu-commerce.edu; sanchezdeborah@yahoo.com<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [CBW_Exec] Fwd:&nbsp; draft of CBW Social Justice Policy<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi everyone,<br>
&gt; I've been reading this exchange with great interest and, as many<br>
&gt; others have already said, I think it's such an important discussion<br>
&gt; and one I'm glad we are having.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I have been chewing on something that I want to toss out, albeit<br>
&gt; reluctantly, a tension I struggle with in my professional life and<br>
&gt; that this discussion has brought back to mind.&nbsp; I'm thinking here of<br>
&gt; Sharon Crowley's work and the work of others who have called for the<br>
&gt; abolition of the introductory writing requirement, and by extension,<br>
&gt; the BW course. (I would also include Bartholomae's &quot;Tidy House&quot;
here<br>
&gt; and more recently Soliday's work).&nbsp; In my reading of it, the critique<br>
&gt; hinges on BW's role in normalizing student writing, in bringing it<br>
&gt; into conformity with some abstract notion of &quot;the standard&quot; by<br>
&gt; eradicating what is non-standard, non-conventional or non-native<br>
&gt; thereby maintaining a system of educational inequality. According to<br>
&gt; this critique, BW is simply too tied up with the maintenance of<br>
&gt; educational, cultural and linguistic inequality for us to claim its<br>
&gt; innocence.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I know, I know.....I too am still committed to that story we love to<br>
&gt; tell (as Bartholomae puts it) about BW's role in securing equal<br>
&gt; educational opportunity and access, but on my campus at least, I<br>
&gt; can't ignore how BW serves an institutional function tied to other<br>
&gt; institutional functions, such as standardized placement testing,<br>
&gt; graduation assessments of written English proficiency, uniform<br>
&gt; standards of achievement, in short, BW's role in re-producing the<br>
&gt; status quo.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Just thought I'd brighten your day with the cheery thoughts going<br>
&gt; through my head.<br>
&gt; Sugie<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Apr 29, 2008, at 12:40 PM, Ribble, Marcia (ribbleml) wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Hi All,<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; To complicate things a bit, I'd like to suggest that we're not<br>
&gt; &gt; fully understanding the<br>
&gt; &gt; causal chains leading to students who are underprepared for college<br>
&gt; &gt; writing if we<br>
&gt; &gt; equate being in basic writing with being in a state of deprivation<br>
&gt; &gt; or injustice.&nbsp; Not<br>
&gt; &gt; all BW students are in poverty.&nbsp; Some are quite privileged and
some<br>
&gt; &gt; wealthy.<br>
&gt; &gt; Just like not all BW students have disabilities, even though some do.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; True enough, at some institutions, the majority of BW students are<br>
&gt; &gt; lower classed,<br>
&gt; &gt; people of color, but that's just not the case in other places.&nbsp;
The<br>
&gt; &gt; first students who<br>
&gt; &gt; benefitted from writing classes were at Harvard, and many of our<br>
&gt; &gt; premier institutions<br>
&gt; &gt; have students who need BW support.&nbsp; I taught BW students at<br>
&gt; &gt; Michigan State and<br>
&gt; &gt; half of them were inner city kids from Detroit, while the other<br>
&gt; &gt; half were international<br>
&gt; &gt; students from all over the world and had lots of money and spoke<br>
&gt; &gt; multiple languages.<br>
&gt; &gt; But even the Detroit kids were split into the haves and have nots<br>
&gt; &gt; with some of them<br>
&gt; &gt; driving Bentleys around campus.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Could we make a statement that could be more inclusive of all the<br>
&gt; &gt; kinds of mechanisms<br>
&gt; &gt; that eventually mean students show up in our classes whether they<br>
&gt; &gt; are part of patterns of<br>
&gt; &gt; social injustice or not?&nbsp; Look at Bush who was privileged to the<br>
&gt; &gt; nth degree but had<br>
&gt; &gt; problems with reading and writing...Doesn't it say something<br>
&gt; &gt; important to understand<br>
&gt; &gt; that his family's wealth couldn't buy him an education that would<br>
&gt; &gt; allow him to be smart<br>
&gt; &gt; enough to stand up to people like Cheney, Rove, and Rumsfeld?<br>
&gt; &gt; Doesn't an inadequate<br>
&gt; &gt; education harm even the wealthiest students, put them into a<br>
&gt; &gt; position to be codgeled into<br>
&gt; &gt; stupid decision making?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; And if that's not enough, look at Paris Hilton.&nbsp; BW isn't&nbsp;
just<br>
&gt; &gt; about injustice, it's also about an<br>
&gt; &gt; educational system that from K-16+ doesn't get it in ways that help<br>
&gt; &gt; all learners to learn.&nbsp; There<br>
&gt; &gt; are probably hundreds of different paths that take students from<br>
&gt; &gt; kindergarten to the college<br>
&gt; &gt; BW classroom.&nbsp; I'm out of steam...and starting to ramble....I
know<br>
&gt; &gt; what I learned in kindergarten.<br>
&gt; &gt; It's time for a snack and a nap.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Marcia Ribble, Ph.D.<br>
&gt; &gt; Assistant Professor of English<br>
&gt; &gt; Humanities, Media and Cultural Studies<br>
&gt; &gt; College of Applied Science<br>
&gt; &gt; University of Cincinnati<br>
&gt; &gt; PO Box 210205<br>
&gt; &gt; Cincinnati, OH&nbsp; 45221-0205<br>
&gt; &gt; Tel: (513) 556-5360<br>
&gt; &gt; Fax: (513) 556-3007<br>
&gt; &gt; marcia.ribble@uc.edu<br>
&gt; &gt; www.uc.edu<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Campus location:&nbsp; 4412 French Hall West<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; From: cbw_exec-bounces@tamu-commerce.edu on behalf of Ashley, Hannah<br>
&gt; &gt; Sent: Tue 4/29/2008 2:22 PM<br>
&gt; &gt; To: Shannon Carter; Susan Bernstein; cbw_exec@tamu-commerce.edu<br>
&gt; &gt; Cc: sanchezdeborah@yahoo.com<br>
&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [CBW_Exec] Fwd: draft of CBW Social Justice Policy<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Hurray for this conversation!&nbsp; I suggest that we continue it<br>
&gt; &gt; online, and also use all of these thoughts to continue this<br>
&gt; &gt; conversation all the way at next year's CBW workshop (assuming it<br>
&gt; &gt; is accepted)--we have a nice program leading us around these ideas,<br>
&gt; &gt; with the idea of basic writers' multiple literacies starting us<br>
&gt; &gt; off, and ending with a look at the National Database and what it<br>
&gt; &gt; might tell us about what we assume about basic writers.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Hannah<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Hannah Ashley, Ph. D.<br>
&gt; &gt; Associate Professor, Composition and Rhetoric Program, Department<br>
&gt; &gt; of English<br>
&gt; &gt; Director, Writing Zones 12.5 (www.wcupa.edu/writingzones)<br>
&gt; &gt; 551 Main Hall, West Chester University<br>
&gt; &gt; 610-738-0499, hashley@wcupa.edu<br>
&gt; &gt; &quot;If you're not terrified when you are writing, you're writing
about<br>
&gt; &gt; the wrong things.&quot;&nbsp; --Dorothy Alison--<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; From: cbw_exec-bounces@tamu-commerce.edu on behalf of Shannon Carter<br>
&gt; &gt; Sent: Tue 4/29/2008 2:20 PM<br>
&gt; &gt; To: Susan Bernstein; cbw_exec@tamu-commerce.edu<br>
&gt; &gt; Cc: sanchezdeborah@yahoo.com<br>
&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [CBW_Exec] Fwd: draft of CBW Social Justice Policy<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Thank you so much for these words, Peter. Very, very good points<br>
&gt; &gt; (and poignantly articulated). As Soliday's work has shown (I'm<br>
&gt; &gt; convinced), the very existence of basic writing programs serves the<br>
&gt; &gt; institutional need to stratify more than it does the student's<br>
&gt; &gt; individual needs as writers (see _The Politics of Remediation_).<br>
&gt; &gt; She isn't suggesting that we rid our universities of basic writing<br>
&gt; &gt; programs because that'd only block student access in more<br>
&gt; &gt; significant ways. But it is important that we remember how very<br>
&gt; &gt; complex and socially embedded issues of social justice always are.<br>
&gt; &gt; There's no free zone, and good will and hard work isn't going to be<br>
&gt; &gt; enough to right the wrongs of society.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; It is also important, however (as Bill points out), to find ways to<br>
&gt; &gt; articulate that kinda thing that aren't off-putting to readers who<br>
&gt; &gt; might otherwise embrace a social justice policy like this. We don't<br>
&gt; &gt; want to alienate. We want to invite real and important discussion<br>
&gt; &gt; and commitment to this very complex topic. I like very much the way<br>
&gt; &gt; Peter has articulated this complexity below (inviting and<br>
&gt; &gt; diplomatic and smart and real). Perhaps we can make use of some of<br>
&gt; &gt; this language, or a version of it, in the revision?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Shannon Carter<br>
&gt; &gt; Associate Professor of English<br>
&gt; &gt; Texas A&amp;M-Commerce<br>
&gt; &gt; shannon_carter@tamu-commerce.edu<br>
&gt; &gt; <a href="http://faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/scarter/">http://faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/scarter/</a><br>
&gt; &gt; 903-886-5492<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; From: cbw_exec-bounces@tamu-commerce.edu on behalf of Susan Bernstein<br>
&gt; &gt; Sent: Tue 4/29/2008 12:59 PM<br>
&gt; &gt; To: cbw_exec@tamu-commerce.edu<br>
&gt; &gt; Cc: sanchezdeborah@yahoo.com<br>
&gt; &gt; Subject: [CBW_Exec] Fwd: draft of CBW Social Justice Policy<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;From Peter Adams:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; The issue Bill and Shannon are wrestling with is complex and<br>
&gt; &gt; important.&nbsp; Many of us have worked for years in basic writing<br>
&gt; &gt; programs that we believe are part of the solution to social<br>
&gt; &gt; injustice.&nbsp; However, I think, painful as it may be, that we must
be<br>
&gt; &gt; willing to consider the possibility that the programs we have<br>
&gt; &gt; developed and labored in for years may, in fact, not be reducing<br>
&gt; &gt; social injustice.&nbsp; I raise this possibility because of the very
low<br>
&gt; &gt; retention rates and success rates in many developmental writing<br>
&gt; &gt; programs, including my own.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; It is certainly a good thing for us to raise issues about social<br>
&gt; &gt; injustice in the wider world and in higher education in general,<br>
&gt; &gt; but I think we have an important obligation to examine our own<br>
&gt; &gt; (tidy) house, to see if we are part of the problem.&nbsp; Perhaps we
are<br>
&gt; &gt; not.&nbsp; Perhaps my concern is misplaced.&nbsp; But I do think we
have an<br>
&gt; &gt; obligation to examine seriously the extent to which basic writing<br>
&gt; &gt; programs may contribute to the failure of higher education to<br>
&gt; &gt; provide a pathway to success for disadvantaged students.&nbsp; We
have<br>
&gt; &gt; an obligation to see whether we can revise our programs so that<br>
&gt; &gt; they truly provide a pathway to success rather than an gate that<br>
&gt; &gt; keeps large percentages of our students from achieving that success.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Peter Adams<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; &gt; From: cbw_exec-bounces@tamu-commerce.edu on behalf of Susan Bernstein<br>
&gt; &gt; Sent: Tue 4/29/2008 10:22 AM<br>
&gt; &gt; To: Shannon Carter<br>
&gt; &gt; Cc: sanchezdeborah@yahoo.com; cbw_exec@tamu-commerce.edu;<br>
&gt; &gt; Ashley,Hannah<br>
&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [CBW_Exec] draft of CBW Social Justice Policy<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Thanks, everyone!&nbsp; In regard to Hannah's comments, I'll take
another<br>
&gt; &gt; look at Valerie F. Kinloch's 2005 article &quot;Revisiting the
promise of<br>
&gt; &gt; Students' Right to Their Own Language: Pedagogical strategies&quot;
in<br>
&gt; &gt; College Composition and Communication 57.1: 83-113. &quot;Students'
Right&quot;<br>
&gt; &gt; is also from 1974 and evolves from many similar concerns of that era.<br>
&gt; &gt; Kinloch makes the very persuasive case that those concerns remain<br>
&gt; &gt; relevant for the 21st century.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I've also copied Bill's comments below.&nbsp; I need to add that I
disagree<br>
&gt; &gt; with Bill on this point, based on my current research and more than
20<br>
&gt; &gt; years in the field-- especially the last five years working with<br>
&gt; &gt; inner-city youth in open-access BW college programs.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; BILL'S COMMENTS:<br>
&gt; &gt; Susan, I like it. I would however change a line that says &quot;Basic<br>
&gt; &gt; Writing<br>
&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; courses serve as a mirror to reflect injustice
[etc.]&quot;--could be<br>
&gt; &gt; construed<br>
&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; to suggest that Basic Writing helps to further that<br>
&gt; &gt; injustice...or that BW<br>
&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; by its existence is part of the injustice, and although
it's<br>
&gt; &gt; true that if<br>
&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; all students were provided equitable and strong prep,
sufficient<br>
&gt; &gt; economic<br>
&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; support at the pre-college level, and a social context
conducive<br>
&gt; &gt; to the best<br>
&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; education possible, prior to college, BW arguably wouldn't<br>
&gt; &gt; exist, I think we<br>
&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; want to make sure we focus on BW as a positive force and
not as<br>
&gt; &gt; a barometer<br>
&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; of injustice... Therefore, maybe a change of wording would
be<br>
&gt; &gt; good. How<br>
&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; about something like &quot;Basic Writing courses often
serve a<br>
&gt; &gt; community of<br>
&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; students who have been previously subjected to social and<br>
&gt; &gt; educational<br>
&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &gt; injustice...&quot;? Just a thought... Bill<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; On 4/28/08, Shannon Carter &lt;Shannon_Carter@tamu-commerce.edu&gt;
wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Ah, great point. What can we make of/do with that 34 year gap<br>
&gt; &gt; between the<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; original statement and today's call? Rhetorically? Politically?<br>
&gt; &gt; Practically?<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Shannon Carter<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Associate Professor of English<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Texas A&amp;M-Commerce<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; shannon_carter@tamu-commerce.edu<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <a href="http://faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/scarter/">http://faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/scarter/</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; 903-886-5492<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; From: Ashley, Hannah [<a href="mailto:HAshley@wcupa.edu">mailto:HAshley@wcupa.edu</a>]<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Mon 4/28/2008 7:20 AM<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; To: Shannon Carter; Susan Bernstein<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Cc: sanchezdeborah@yahoo.com; cbw_exec@tamu-commerce.edu<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [CBW_Exec] draft of CBW Social Justice Policy<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; I too approve of the spirit and the general rhetorical drift of
this<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; resolution.&nbsp; Nice work!&nbsp; I would want to
&quot;do&quot; something with the<br>
&gt; &gt; fact that<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; what we are doing is calling on a 1974 resolution.&nbsp; That
is, what<br>
&gt; &gt; does it<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; mean in 2008 to be reaffirming that statement?<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Hannah<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Hannah Ashley, Ph. D.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Associate Professor, Composition and Rhetoric Program,
Department<br>
&gt; &gt; of English<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Director, Writing Zones 12.5 (www.wcupa.edu/writingzones)<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; 551 Main Hall, West Chester University<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; 610-738-0499, hashley@wcupa.edu<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;If you're not terrified when you are writing, you're
writing<br>
&gt; &gt; about the<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; wrong things.&quot;&nbsp; --Dorothy Alison--<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; __<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; From: Susan Bernstein [<a href="mailto:susan.naomi@gmail.com">mailto:susan.naomi@gmail.com</a>]<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Fri 4/25/2008 12:55 PM<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; To: Shannon Carter<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Cc: cbw_exec@tamu-commerce.edu; sanchezdeborah@yahoo.com<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: draft of CBW Social Justice Policy<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Greetings eveyone,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Attached and below please find a very *rough* draft of a CBW
Social<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Justice Policy.&nbsp; As you'll see, NCTE presented a 1974
Position<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Statement that dovetails with much of what we discussed at our<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Executive Board meeting at CCCC.&nbsp; By coincidence, the NCTE
Statement<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; was presented in New Orleans.&nbsp; Many thanks to my U of
Cincinnati<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; graduate student Deborah Sanchez for directing me to this
statement.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Since this draft is rough and percolating at once, I look
forward to<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; our discussion about it on the list.&nbsp; Please contribute any
and all<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; revisions, questions, comments, concerns.&nbsp; Given current
material<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; conditions for students enrolled in Basic Writing courses, I<br>
&gt; &gt; advocate<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; for the urgency of our work-- and the open discussion that will
lead<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; to addressing the widest audience possible for our concerns.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Warm regards and good wishes for the weekend,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Susan<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Susan Naomi Bernstein<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; LaGuardia Community College<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Toward Social Justice for Students Enrolled in Basic Writing<br>
&gt; &gt; Courses:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; A Conference on Basic Writing Policy Statement<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp; We of the Executive Board of the Conference on Basic
Writing have<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; duly noted the disparities in educational conditions for our<br>
&gt; &gt; students<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; enrolled in our Basic Writing courses across the United States.<br>
&gt; &gt; These<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; conditions point to lack of adequate and sufficient access to<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; resources that would aid full matriculation to college,
including<br>
&gt; &gt; but<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; not limited to:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; ? Insufficient access to preparation for college-level courses
based<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; on systemic educational inequities in public schools<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; ? Insufficient access to financial aid counseling<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; ? Insufficient access to academic advising and personal
counseling<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Insufficient access to disability services<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; ? Insufficient access to academic and fine arts courses that
foster<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; and sustain students? growth in areas related to progress in basic<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; writing and<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Further, we would suggest that students enrolled in honors
programs<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; and other more privileged educational venues enjoy routine
access to<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; such resources.&nbsp; Equally important we must point out that
those<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; students enrolled in Basic Writing courses often come from<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; underrepresented and underserved groups in higher education and<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; include African American, Latino, poor, working class,
documented<br>
&gt; &gt; and<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; undocumented immigrants, and students with disabilities.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Basic Writing courses serve as a mirror to reflect systemic<br>
&gt; &gt; injustice<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; throughout US society. Indeed, the increased reliance on<br>
&gt; &gt; standardized<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; tests to track, measure, and reward ?academic progress?
negatively<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; impacts students enrolled in Basic Writing courses. Such tests<br>
&gt; &gt; create<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; rigid categories of achievement that impede students?
educational<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; progress.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; As longitudinal research has demonstrated, higher education
provides<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; sustainable long-term benefits for achieving individual economic
and<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; intellectual goals, which positively impacts US society as a
whole<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; (Attewill and Lavin; Sternglass).&nbsp; With these issues in
mind, we<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; advocate that educators for Basic Writing and administrators<br>
&gt; &gt; involved<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; with student success initiatives actively support and implement
the<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; NCTE Position Statement ?On Support for Motivated but
Inadequately<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Prepared College Students? as suggested below.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; On Support for Motivated but Inadequately Prepared College
Students<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; 1974<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; NCTE Annual Business Meeting in New Orleans, Louisiana<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Background<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; We believe that all colleges and universities, by the act of<br>
&gt; &gt; admitting<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; students, become responsible for creating conditions that will<br>
&gt; &gt; permit<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; those students to exercise their own right to learn.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Clearly, some students who are admitted and who desire to learn
lack<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; adequate educational backgrounds to progress satisfactorily in<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; traditional learning situations, and many institutions of higher<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; learning are making little or no effort to help them. Be it<br>
&gt; &gt; therefore<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Resolution<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Resolved, that the National Council of Teachers of English encourage<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; college and university administrations, and legislative bodies,
to<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; allocate sufficient funds to provide individualized and
supportive<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; programs for students who are motivated but inadequately
prepared<br>
&gt; &gt; for<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; success in colleges and universities to which they are being<br>
&gt; &gt; admitted.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <a
href="http://www.ncte.org/about/over/positions/category/curr/107455.htm">http://www.ncte.org/about/over/positions/category/curr/107455.htm</a><br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; ______________________________<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; From: cbw_exec-bounces@tamu-commerce.edu on behalf of Shannon
Carter<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Sun 4/27/2008 2:46 AM<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; To: Susan Bernstein<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Cc: sanchezdeborah@yahoo.com; cbw_exec@tamu-commerce.edu<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [CBW_Exec] draft of CBW Social Justice Policy<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Wow! I can't think of anything to add and I agree: this work is<br>
&gt; &gt; indeed<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; crucial. The revision Sonya has created of the CCCC/CBW<br>
&gt; &gt; Fellowship call for<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; apps really foregrounds advocacy in ways this policy
articulates.<br>
&gt; &gt; At least I<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; think it does.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; And I look forward to our discussion and, eventually (perhaps<br>
&gt; &gt; following<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; revision suggestions), approval of this important policy<br>
&gt; &gt; statement. I also<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; look forward to including such statements on our website.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; What do you guys think? How do we feel about the wording, the<br>
&gt; &gt; spirit, and<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; the goals of this draft and project?<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Shannon<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Shannon Carter<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Associate Professor of English<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Texas A&amp;M-Commerce<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; shannon_carter@tamu-commerce.edu<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <a href="http://faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/scarter/">http://faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/scarter/</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; 903-886-5492<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
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&gt; English Department<br>
&gt; San Francisco State University<br>
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