[CBW_Exec] FW: Wednesday workshop question
kbaca@nmsu.edu
kbaca at nmsu.edu
Sun Apr 17 13:06:27 CDT 2011
Thank you for the discussion on this issue. I would hate to see CBW go to a half
day. This full- day preconference is the ONE chance that many folks involved in
BW get to participate in the scholarship of our field. If we try to get it all
in three hours, we just don't have the impact that a full day makes possible.
The workshop sets up the conference for the 20-50 people who are able to attend.
I also think that cutting it to a half day lessens the impact of the Sense of
the House Motion. If we don't believe that BW warrants a full day, why should it
be considered for featured sessions or its own strand?
Think of how many ideas we suggested for the precon. We basically had to narrow
it to only two, and then choose from those. If we cut that time in half, we are
necessitating the removal of half the content. And part of the draw is the
workshop format, which is possible in part because of the length of time we have.
ALP is a proven program, it will continue to have positive effects where it is
implemented, and it should be one of the ideas supported by CBW. I think it was
even part of the precon a couple of years ago. I just don't think we should
halve what we offer for it or any other program, no matter how promising.
While I see alternative points, I suggest that we continue with the planned
full-day preconference. kb
----- Original Message -----
From: Susan Bernstein <susan.naomi at gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, April 17, 2011 10:45 am
Subject: Re: [CBW_Exec] FW: Wednesday workshop question
To: Conference of Basic Writing Executive Board <cbw_exec at tamu-commerce.edu>
> ALP definitely should have its own workshop. It is an important
> innovationthat deserves its own time slot and audience, and that
> fully complements the
> work of CBW.
>
> However, a full-day CBW workshop would have a different goal than the
> separate halves of an ALP or a CBW workshop. CBW helps to create new
> scholarship in the field -- and to foster a discussion on new
> scholarshipfor people just beginning and/or overworked and under-
> resourced in the
> field. In other words, CBW's full-day workshop serves
> teacher/scholars who
> otherwise would not have access to new scholarship or to the
> resources for
> creating new scholarship.
>
> But I also believe the $40 full-day workshop price keeps lots of
> folks away.
> Prompted by Barbara Gleason, we tried to initiate a conversation
> with CCCC
> about changing the price when Kathleen and I were chairs, but to no
> avail.
> SO: I would support a full day for CBW, but would agree to a 1/2
> day if
> that's the general consensus-- with one caveat. If we decide on a
> half day
> for St. Louis in 2012, we need to revisit doing a full-day again
> for Vegas
> in 2013.
>
> Best,
>
> Susan
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Kelly Ritter <karitter at uncg.edu>
> wrote:
> > I think this is a great idea, as it would also allow some in-out
> flow> regarding the BW crowd (some will do AM, some PM, for the
> ALP, some both)
> > and would open up participation for BW folks in other afternoon
> sessions,> like RNF or another workshop, if they were familiar with
> or not currently
> > interested in ALP.
> >
> > Kelly
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Shannon Carter <
> > Shannon_Carter at tamu-commerce.edu> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ashley, Hannah [mailto:HAshley at wcupa.edu <HAshley at wcupa.edu>]
> >> Sent: Sun 4/17/2011 10:22 AM
> >> To: cbw_exec-bounces at tamu-commerce.edu
> >> Subject: FW: Wednesday workshop question
> >>
> >> So, Exec Board--
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What do you think about the idea of doing a half-day Wednesday
> workshop>> from CBW in the morning, and requesting that it not
> compete with ALP which
> >> could do a workshop in the afternoon? Not that they'd be
> proposed as part
> >> of same workshop, but but explicitly asking they not conflict and
> >> acknowleding similar draws?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Feedback?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hannah
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hannah Ashley, Ph.D.
> >> Associate Professor of English, Composition & Rhetoric
> >> Director, Writing Zones 12.5 (<http://www.writingzones/>
> >> www.writingzones.net<http://www.writingzones.net/>)
> >> 543 Main Hall, West Chester University
> >> West Chester, PA 19383
> >> 610-436-2371
> >>
> >>
> >> "For years I pulled my own existence out of emptiness. Then one
> swoop, one
> >> swing of the arm, that work is over." Rumi
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Adams, Peter D. [padams2 at ccbcmd.edu]
> >> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:01 PM
> >> To: Ashley, Hannah
> >> Subject: RE: Workshops on BW at CCCC
> >>
> >>
> >> If that's okay with you two, it would be great for us. I do
> think it
> >> would be good to run it past the EB.
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> Peter Adams | Director of Accelerated Learning Program
> >> Department of English
> >> Essex Campus
> >> Community College of Baltimore County
> >> 7201 Rossville Blvd
> >> Baltimore, MD 21237
> >> 443.710.1852 | padams2 at ccbcmd.edu
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ashley, Hannah [mailto:HAshley at wcupa.edu <HAshley at wcupa.edu>]
> >> Sent: Fri 4/15/2011 11:54 AM
> >> To: Adams, Peter D.; J. Elizabeth Clark
> >> Subject: RE: Workshops on BW at CCCC
> >>
> >> Yes, perhaps we should propose a half day each, if folks think a
> good>> idea. Send to EB?
> >>
> >> Hannah
> >>
> >> Hannah Ashley, Ph.D.
> >> Director, Writing Zones 12.5 (www.writingzones.net)
> >> Service Learning Faculty Associate, WCU
> >> Associate Professor of Composition and Rhetoric
> >> Main Hall 543
> >> Department of English, West Chester University
> >> Spring 2001 Office Hours: M, 2-4, W 2-3, F 11-12
> >>
> >> I was part of a generation of kids who saw something special
> about what it
> >> means to be human--something bloody and dramatic and scandalous
> that>> happened right here in America--and hip-hop was our way of
> reporting that
> >> story, telling it to ourselves and to the world...the story of
> the hustler
> >> was the story hip-hop was born to tell...hustling is the
> ultimate metaphor
> >> for the basic human struggles: the struggle to survive and
> resist...to win
> >> and make sense of it all. --from Jay-Z, Decoded (2010)
> >>
> >> From: Adams, Peter D. [mailto:padams2 at ccbcmd.edu
> <padams2 at ccbcmd.edu>]>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 9:05 AM
> >> To: Ashley, Hannah; J. Elizabeth Clark
> >> Subject: RE: Workshops on BW at CCCC
> >>
> >>
> >> Liz makes an interesting suggestion. If we each did a half day
> workshop,>> we would be offering to basic writing workshops without
> competing for
> >> audience. A different way to compromise would be for us simply
> to postpone
> >> our idea a year, which we'd certainly be willing to do. Or, we
> could take
> >> the risk of offering both and letting those proverbial "chips"
> fall.>>
> >> Would you like to see what the EB says about the question?
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> Peter Adams | Director of Accelerated Learning Program
> >> Department of English
> >> Essex Campus
> >> Community College of Baltimore County
> >> 7201 Rossville Blvd
> >> Baltimore, MD 21237
> >> 443*710*1852 | padams2 at ccbcmd.edu
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ashley, Hannah [mailto:HAshley at wcupa.edu <HAshley at wcupa.edu>]
> >> Sent: Fri 4/15/2011 9:00 AM
> >> To: J. Elizabeth Clark; Adams, Peter D.
> >> Subject: RE: Workshops on BW at CCCC
> >>
> >> I agree, Peter, that if you feel like there is enough energy to
> do a
> >> workshop just devoted to ALP--do it and let the chips fall where
> they may.
> >>
> >> Hannah
> >>
> >> Hannah Ashley, Ph.D.
> >> Associate Professor of English, Composition & Rhetoric
> >> Director, Writing Zones 12.5 (www.writingzones.net)
> >> 543 Main Hall, West Chester University
> >> West Chester, PA 19383
> >> 610-436-2371
> >>
> >> "For years I pulled my own existence out of emptiness. Then one
> swoop, one
> >> swing of the arm, that work is over." Rumi
> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: J. Elizabeth Clark [lclark at lagcc.cuny.edu]
> >> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:24 AM
> >> To: padams2 at ccbcmd.edu; Ashley, Hannah
> >> Subject: Re: Workshops on BW at CCCC
> >>
> >> Hi Peter,
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope you're well. I think it's definitely important for you to
> have an
> >> audience for ALP at CCCC. Is there someway we might join forces?
> For>> example, if you did an ALP workshop from 9-12 and then joined
> us from
> >> 1-4? Or, would that make your day too short? Just brainstorming
> here.>>
> >>
> >> Liz
> >>
> >> J. Elizabeth Clark, Ph.D.
> >> Professor of English
> >> LaGuardia Community College--CUNY
> >> e-mail: lclark at lagcc.cuny.edu
> >> Phone: 718.482.5665
> >> www.jelizabethclark.com
> >> >>> "Adams, Peter D." 04/15/11 12:25 AM >>>
> >> Hannah and Liz,
> >>
> >> As you know, at CCBC we have developed an accelerated approach
> to basic
> >> writing we call ALP, which has met with considerable success in
> >> improving students' success rates. More than twenty schools
> across the
> >> nation are now piloting some sections of ALP and many more are
> >> interested.
> >>
> >> My colleagues and I have been thinking about proposing a pre-
> conference>> workshop at CCCC on starting up ALP but we are worried
> about the effect
> >> that might have on the CBW workshop. On the one hand, it might
> be a
> >> sign of the healthiness of basic writing if there were two
> workshops,>> both on basic writing. In the other hand, we might
> end up splitting the
> >> audience and ending up with 15 or 20 at each session.
> >>
> >> So I thought I'd ask what you think. Would you view our
> offering such a
> >> workshop as a sign of the health of the field or as a
> competition that
> >> is unhealthy for both of us?
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> Peter Adams | Director of Accelerated Learning Program
> >> Department of English
> >> Essex Campus
> >> Community College of Baltimore County
> >> 7201 Rossville Blvd
> >> Baltimore, MD 21237
> >> 443*710*1852 | padams2 at ccbcmd.edu
> >>
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